dmitry

awesome i'll test them out, thanks.

the extractor is complete. i would like to find the team names and add that to the program, as well as the crowd meter. has anyone found either of these? if anyone wants to help test the extractor just send me a pm.

ok looks like i found scoring summary too. its just before the penalty summary. each goal is described by 6 bytes from what i can tell. 59627 gives # of bytes, same as for penalties, then each goal follows consecutively with 6 bytes -first 2 bytes give you the period and time, same as the penalties. -3rd byte(team and pp/sh)--home team is 00 for sh2, 01 for sh, 02 for even, 03 for pp, 04 for pp2; or for away team is 80 for sh2, 81 for sh, 82 for even, 83 for pp, 84 for pp2 -4th byte is player position(roster slot) who scored the goal -5th and 6th bytes are the player positions who scored assists, if any. FFFF if none one other thing i can think of, is there a reference to the teams anywhere besides home and away? i havent found that yet

as far as extracting the data, to start i'm just writing a simple windows application in vb.net which will output all of the data into 2 comma delimited text files. one file for the team stats and another file for the playerstats. i'm basically done with the team data and just need to add the player data and the summaries now. having text files will allow anyone to import the data into any database. i will be using it to import the data into an access database using asp. if you need some help with this aspect then i can help you. eventually i plan on rewriting the application in asp.net or php so people can upload the files directly and skip the text file step.

fighting does show up as a penalty i will try to explain the penalty summary for you 59989 gives you the number of bytes that make up the penalty summary, which then come consecutively after 59989 for example if 59989 shows a hex value of 24, then the next 36 bytes are the penalty summary. you can add penalties by increasing this number. each penalty is described by 4 bytes, the first 2 will give you the period and time. this is off the top of my head from yesterday but it should be close: 0000 - 3fff will give you a first period penalty in seconds 4000 - 7fff will give a second period penalty in seconds 8000 - Bfff third period penalty C000 - ffff overtime penalty the 3rd byte gives the team and penalty 3rd byte starting with a 1 or 2 will be a home team penalty 3rd byte starting with a 9 or A will be an away team penalty penalties: 12 is boarding against home team 16 is charging against home team 18 is slashing against home team 1A is roughing against home team 1C is cross check against home team 1E is hooking against home team 20 is tripping against home team 22 is interference against home team 24 is holding against home team 26 is fighting against home team 92 is boarding against away team 96 is charging against away team 98 is slashing against away team 9A is roughing against away team 9C is cross check against away team 9E is hooking against away team A0 is tripping against away team A2 is interference against away team A4 is holding against away team A6 is fighting against away team 4th byte is the player position example 4015 9213 is boarding(92) against away team player in position 13 at 21 seconds into 2nd period(4015) C240 A005 is tripping against away team player 5 at 9:36 in OT this is clear as mud i'm sure.

thanks i've got most of those but i think i wasnt quite sure about some of the goalie/player issues i just figured out the penalty summary which leaves only the scoring summary, which should be similar are we forgetting anything?

the file you posted works fine. i'm in the process of making the extractor now. just need a couple days of free time to finish it.

great, i figured there had to be a way to get the state file like i said before i have found every stat in the game except the scoring summary and penalty summary, which i haven't looked for yet. i will test the state file this morning.

i dont have a way to try it currently, but i was wondering what happens when the game disconnects. does the game disappear or can you try to save the state after you are no longer connected and the game is over? i'm also not sure about the filming of games in gens, but i know in nesticle you can save the state while playing back the movie. i have all the offsets except the scoring summary and penalty summary, and i'm not sure if i want to spend the time looking for them if there is no use for it. thanks

so there is absolutely no way to save a state from a netplay game in gens? i havent been able to find anyone to try it.

heres are the latest offsets i've found: 60230-1 team1 shots 60236-7 team1 penalties 60238-9 team1 penalty minutes 60240-1 team1 attack zone time (in seconds) 60242-3 team1 score 60244-5 team1 faceoffs won 60246-7 team1 body checks 60248-9 team1 total passes 60250-1 team1 successful passes 61064-5 team1 1st period goals 61066-7 team1 2nd period goals 61068-9 team1 3rd period goals 61070-1 team1 ot period goals 61072-3 team1 1st period shots 61074-5 team1 2nd period shots 61076-7 team1 3rd period shots 61078-9 team1 OT period shots 61086-7 team1 breakaways 61088-9 team1 breakaway goals 61090-1 team1 onetimers 61092-3 team1 onetimer goals 61094-5 team1 penalty shots 61096-7 team1 penalty shot goals

i dont have any experience with gens netplay, but i'm sure there is some way to capture the state, perhaps after you disconnect? i will have to play around with it when i get a chance. as far as similar apps, i've been using a program for tecmo super bowl to rip stats from nesticle saved states and import directly to online databases using asp for the past 4 years. send me a message and i can give you some links. you should be able to get any and all of the stat info you want out of the state file once we figure out how to get the state from a netplay game

the idea would be either to make a small program that would extract all the relevant data from the game and put it into a text file, which anyone with the proper knowledge could use to insert into a database or do whatever else they wanted to do with it, or to code a webpage which would do the same thing--extract the data, but also insert the data into an online database at the same time, skipping the text file step. i have already found the offsets for individual player's goals and shots on goal, as well as the goalie saves and shots. the way i find the offsets is by opening the state file, which i take at the scoreboard screen in gens after the 3 stars are shown, using a hex editor. then i search for a certain value that appears in any of the game or player stats in gens and change the same values in the hex editor(using find and replace) to something else. after changing the values in the hex editor, i save the state file in the hex editor, then reload the state file in gens and see if the stat i was hoping to change is different. its not too time consuming if you change about half the matching values in the state file at a time to narrow down your search. then you just keep changing and saving until you narrow it down and find the exact offset. the offsets for away team player shots on goal start at 61332 (decimal) and run consecutively. the goalie shots faced come right before that at 61330, and the goals allowed are at 61278 i believe. home team goalie shots faced starts at 60462, and the players' shots should be right after that. thats all i had time for. i could write the program after we find all the offsets, and i also have a lot of online database experience with similar things. as far as the stats, you could get as in depth as you wanted. once you get the raw stats from the game you can do just about anything you can think of with them--from automated user stats/records to individual and team player stat pages. you could also automate standings for a league, etc etc

ok well i hoped something was already made so i wouldnt have to do it, but i'll see what i can do. i've found some of the offsets, so its just a matter of spending the time to find everything. if anybody wants to help find offsets, we could come up with a tool for stat extraction, which would make online databasing of scores and stats easy to do.

hello everyone, are there any tools available to extract nhl94 statistics from gens saved state files?