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[Sept 24 2016 - Green Bay, WI] Official signup and rules thread for Blades of 94

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Townline Pub & Grill
2544 Lineville Rd, Green Bay, Wisconsin 54313

September, 24, 2016, 10AM - completion

Rules posted are in the spirit of kingof94.com with some modifications. This is a Genesis only NHL 94 tournament. These rules may be amended/updated with or without notice at the discretion of King of 94 WI when deemed necessary. KO94WI staff is the judge and jury in any disputes that cannot be worked out between competitors.

1) Game Settings : 5 Min Periods, Manual Goalie, Penalties On, No Offside

2) Please no delaying the game(excessive time in change screens, or stalling on your own end to run time out, you must attempt to advance the puck and press offensive advantage whenever possible)

3) Known game exploits/glitches IE(pass shots, the “b” stat trick, post whistle goals, miracle drop shot goals, etc. are permissible)

4) Team selection will involve a coin clip, the winner is required to call the matchup and is the home team. The coin clip loser choses which of the two teams to be. If you face the same opponent again in the tournament, this is automatically reversed.

5) A coin flip winner cannot call the same matchup more than once during group play. This restriction is reset in bracket play and is again limited to one instance.(example : The coin flip winner can call Penguins v Devils, once in Group Play, and again in Bracket Play)

6) In the event of a system malfunction, the game will be reset. The prior score will apply. Games in the 1st period will resume from the 2nd, 2nd from the 3rd. Malfunctions in the 3rd should be replayed unless there is a 3 or more goal lead while said malfunction occurs. If a 3 or more goal lead exists in the 3rd, and a malfunction happens, the game is awarded to the leading player.

7) If the game is not resolved in Overtime, the game is reset until the first goal is scored. Injuries and penalties will not carry over, and line changes are allowed at this time to adjust. The home team has the final line change.

8) There is a 10 goal lead mercy rule. The game is over once this is achieved. 10 goals is the max per game goal differential allowed in the tournament. Goal differential is a tie breaking metric.

9) Changing Goalies: You may change before the opening faceoff in a period, and during play stoppages. You may not change goalies for a penalty shot, or once the faceoff animations have started.

10) You may only sub for an extra attacker and pause if you possess the puck. You may not pause to send the goalie back until the whistle blows.

11) NHL-WI staff is your referee source for any disputes.(Trojan, Tim Ubick, Mike Mathena)

12) The games are played on real Sega Genesis model 1, 2, or 3 hardware with OEM 3 or 6 button controllers via composite signal on CRT televisions. The only acceptable participant generic at this time is the Hyperkin 6 button. You are encouraged to bring your own controller for your own comfort level. We will need to know in advance if you are bringing a controller. You may be eligible for an event discount for providing a working 2 player setup.

13) Line changes are permitted before the game, during intermission, post injury, and if a timeout is used. Please state that you’d like to make a change so that your opponent doesn’t start pressing buttons to get into the action. Unapproved line changes will need to be reverted. The home team is always the last to make changes. Please keep the line changes to about 30 seconds per side to keep the action moving. Stats are approximate in the change screen for the Sega Genesis(except for weight), so do not dwell too long on the figures. If you accidently start the game before the line change process has completed for both sides, simply state that you wish to reset the game and then do so.(this should happen before the puck drops)

Frequently Asked Questions

1) Why the Genesis and not SNES? Price and familiarity in this region are the two biggest reasons. The retro players in the WI market we spoke with were more familiar with the Genesis, as it tended to be the platform of choice for EA Sports games during the early to mid-90’s. The Genesis version is also typically heralded as the better version of the game. Lastly, the cost of acquiring true SNES hardware greatly exceeds the Genesis in 2nd hand markets. Currently we can acquire a Genesis console for roughly half the price of an SNES.

2) How old do I need to be to participate? The answer to that question is 18 if you are on your own, and if accompanied by an adult, whatever that adult is comfortable with. Children may participate in the action, but are subject to the same entry fees. Please keep in mind that because there is prize money on the line, we cannot expect any adults to hold back and “go easy” on them. Also, while we encourage and request respectful language, we understand that we cannot completely censor any profanities that often come along with intense competition. Parental discretion is advised in this matter

3) What are the food/drink options? Food and drink is available from the venue (Towline Pub and Grill). Outside product may not be brought inside. You must be 21 or older with a valid ID to order alcohol. We do ask that you drink responsibly, and be respectful of the attendees, venue, and equipment while doing so.

4) Why no event t-shirts? We want as much money possible going to the cash prize pool for this event. As this grows in popularity, the prize pool will as well, which will in turn allow us to investigate the possibility of including t-shirts at that time.

5) Overnight lodging accommodations? We have no implied agreements with any venues, however there are multiple options within 1-10 miles of the event venue.

6) What is the cost to participate? The event cost is $30 at the door, $25 if you prepay. If you can provide a fully functional Genesis console + 2 OEM controllers + and copy of NHL94, you can get your fee lowered to $20. (You must prepay to be eligible for this). Your request to provide hardware must be approved, so contact Trojan (Troy) @ 920-246-7513, or trojan1979@gmail.com before prepaying if you wish to take advantage of this. There a number of individuals that are contributing behind the scenes that are paying a reduced fee to participate, and this event wouldn’t be possible without them. We do aim for transparency in this area to ensure integrity. The full amount of payout will be disclosed the day of the event.

7) What is the format/payout of the tournament? We will begin by having a group play session that is similar to a mini season. The number of games played will be based on the number of participants, and the number of consoles available. Group play will be followed by a single elimination playoff bracket. The 3rd place bracket game, conference final, and “Manley Cup final” will have a 3 game series. There will be prize money awarded to 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place. Prize money will be awarded, 60/30/10 percent. With expenses and system discounts, we anticipate roughly $15-$20 per paid person to go towards the prize pool. The price of internal console acquisition is not figured into this. A 32 paying field would net around $500 conservatively. $300 of that would go to first place, $150 to second place, and $50 would go to third. If you want that number to increase, invite more friends!

8) May we dress in costume for this event? Absolutely! We encourage you to wear your favorite team jersey/apparel. Extra points of respect are given out for old school apparel!

9) Are spectators allowed? Absolutely! The more the merrier, however we do ask that spectators be respectful and do not attempt to play on a system without paying to be a part of the event. Late comers may be allowed in at the expense of some pool play forfeitures.

10) How many games do we get to play and how long is the event? Pool play will start within an hour of the posted start time after registration is completed and commencement announcements are completed. We are still looking for someone to sing Oh Canada if we get any of our friends from the north. Again depending on actual participants, we anticipate anywhere from 4-8 games, taking anywhere from 2-4 hours for pool play. If you are eliminated you are encouraged to stay and cheer on those that advance. The bracket we also anticipate taking 2-4 hours to wrap up activities.

11) Will the games be recorded or streamed? There will be at least on station recording gameplay, and if bandwidth allows, we will attempt to stream the action on twitch. Please add twitch.tv/trojan1979 to your list of followed channels.

12) How do I prepay? Payments may be made via PayPal to trojan1979@gmail.com. Payments are nonrefundable. Prepay discount is available until one month before the tournament. Payment of $25 is to be sent to reserve your spot. You are considered signed up once payment is received.

Edited by King of 94' WI

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Current Signup List : 22 participants to date

Total Setups in play:13

Trojan - Staff

Trojan Jr - Staff

Nick Wautier -Staff Photographer

Staff providing 10 full setups and additional TV's as needed + streaming station for Twitch.

Estimated total cash on the line to date $495.00

Angyjay93 -PAID! $24 net via paypal

Moeman -PAID! $24 net via paypal

Tim Ubick - PAID! $25 cash

Mike Mathena - paying at door Bringing 2 x System/Game/Controllers(previously approved $20)

Troy Evers - PAID! $24 net via paypal

Levi Lacross - PAID! - $19 net via paypal Bringing System/Game/Controllers

Kevin Cabarello - PAID! $24 net via paypal

Mike Wisco - PAID! $24 net via paypal

Brian Jackson + son - unpaid(confirmed will pay at the door)

Mark Smolik - unpaid(confirmed will pay at the door)

Hank the Tank - unpaid(confimed will pay at the door)

Alan Pfeil - unpaid(confirmed will pay at the door)

Gary Blohowiak - unpaid(confirmed payment incoming)

Bryan Peterson - unpaid

Dana Dodge - unpaid

Apple Jacks - unpaid

Pierre Menard - unpaid

Jon Messrah - unpaid(waiting on confirmation)

Edited by King of 94' WI

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What/where is the venue?

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What/where is the venue?

It's in the original Facebook post which is pinned on this forum. I also added it to this post, which is simply the rules posting.

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I'm interested. Wondering if any of the other Chicago contingent + Ice is planning on going.

I might be able to swing it. Gotta talk Brutus into doing it too. I think a lot hinges on Long Island

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Both of them fall on a Saturday, so neither are "easy" for me to commit to.

Long Island is the one I'd prefer to do cause it's not a 3 hour drive to nowhere & I like the idea of catching New York for a few nights as well.

I WILL know in the next few days about New York, and if I don't do New York, then I would do the Wisconsin one, and we could all head up together.

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Green Bay is hardly nowhere my friend. Lambeau Field alone is worth the trip here, and they do tours every day of the year. But on that note, there are other sites here that don't break the bank. Bay Beach Amusment Park and The National Railroad Museum are just a couple that come to mind. There are some historic breweries up here as well, and if you had to pick one to hang out at, it would be Titletown Brewing Company downtown.

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Offense not meant, but obviously taken.

I've been in Chicago for quite some time & Green Bay is not on my vacation list, so I was more meaning if I wanted to make it a double vacation trip, NY has that appeal to me, whereas driving 3 hours to Green Bay doesn't.

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Green Bay is hardly nowhere my friend. Lambeau Field alone is worth the trip here, and they do tours every day of the year. But on that note, there are other sites here that don't break the bank. Bay Beach Amusment Park and The National Railroad Museum are just a couple that come to mind. There are some historic breweries up here as well, and if you had to pick one to hang out at, it would be Titletown Brewing Company downtown.

How do you not sell ur cheese. The only non Quebec Curds I consider worthy of Poutine

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Also 2 rules that badly need applied:

No goal after the whistle. It only occurs for PS and is easily repeatable and easy to avoid.
No taking the puck back after a goalie poke on PS.

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No taking the puck back after a goalie poke on PS.

Why

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Also 2 rules that badly need applied:

No goal after the whistle. It only occurs for PS and is easily repeatable and easy to avoid.

No taking the puck back after a goalie poke on PS.

I tried pushing for these for Ko94 but in the end we went with, whatever the game allows is fine. It's just easier that way, no drama about restarting the game or having the guy give up a make-up goal, etc. Just have to hope people don't abuse it. (Not that I would mind seeing rules for those... but it may be more hassle than it's worth)

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goalie poke is a glitch anyway, the goalie animorphs into a player for a split second to poke.

So I think it was an unintended move anyway. What kind of a wacklord pokes on penalty shotd anyway?

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goalie poke is a glitch anyway, the goalie animorphs into a player for a split second to poke.

So I think it was an unintended move anyway. What kind of a wacklord pokes on penalty shotd anyway?

Moi

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huh? i thought it only worked in penalty shots. nvm i guess if the goalie is the closest to the puck hed poke.

mannnn im so outta the game

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I tried pushing for these for Ko94 but in the end we went with, whatever the game allows is fine. It's just easier that way, no drama about restarting the game or having the guy give up a make-up goal, etc. Just have to hope people don't abuse it. (Not that I would mind seeing rules for those... but it may be more hassle than it's worth)

. I get why there less hassle that way but if somebody wins the tournament/elimination game on that it'll just feel extremely cheap and it's eventually going to happen.

Edited by The Russian Rocket

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Well, the real issue comes in that over 50% of the people signing up to play most of these tourney's will not be aware of these cheats/hacks, and trying to police them/implement them gets difficult, cause you first have to explain them, etc, then also requires additional "policing", where most of these games are run without supervision simultaneously.

Maybe if guys want to make a gentleman's agreement before the game between themselves, then you know you are going to have a "clean" game.

Otherwise, I get the no holds-bar style rule structure, cause it is "in the game".

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In the KO94 finals, I didn't immediately ice the puck when KG had goalie lock. I didn't score.

On the flip side, KG had a penalty shot and he skated back up and scored on the PS...I think to go up 1 goal or tie. Was close at that point.

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Idk there's already some extra rules that are not innate and not proprietary to most leagues here (pausing, goalie switching backward skating) I get that it's thought to apply to everybody but in the late games there's probably not gonna be any outsiders anyway.
My primary logic line with this is always ''if everybody did it would it be an issue'' and I think it really would. But oh well I'm not organizing s**t so u guys do what you want in the end.

''KG had a penalty shot and he skated back up and scored on the PS''
That's fairly shitty.

Edited by The Russian Rocket

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@ Brutus, not offended at all brother. :) When it comes to retro sports tournaments, the Midwest knows how to bro down, and the price is right vs some larger markets. I hope it will work out for you to make it.

@ everyone else chiming in on the rules, we will roll as indicated. Your input is appreciated, but no changes will be made to the rule set at this point.

King of 94 Proper has a very good understanding of these rules, and ours are aligned with the spirit of those rules. The best of the best will exploit any and all of these known quirks in the game to their advantage. If we find that one particular thing is absolutely game breaking, we will open the discussion for adjustments on future events.

For most of our local players, this is a nostalgia tournament, and none of us were particularly dominant in the game, and will have little to no knowledge of how to actually exploit these things on demand.

If you are skilled enough to break the game, you stand a great chance of walking away with some cash at the end of the tournament. Time to get your commitment in and prepay!

On that note, only those that actually SIGN UP, PAY, AND ATTEND will actually have their input considered, so let's get that commitment going. We already have a commit from California coming. See original post for directions on this.

Thanks all

Trojan

Edited by King of 94' WI

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gets some facts straight boys raph u scored on my locked goalie that's why I said down 4-1 in the 3rd I guaranteed victory ...mostly outta anger ....honestly all my years playing 94 I don't remember anyone saying that was a play we couldn't use or even frowned upon...so calling it a shitty move is a pretty lame ...I learned the move not from anyone just AI when they took penalty shots and scored on me always loved the move. .....on side note Im retiring from all 94 live or online I'm done. time to take over the world chicos!

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and watch all the black guys bring in mcdonalds to blackstone after bar close...

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