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Teams as they were from 2008 - looking back, having Fedorov over Howe on Detroit was a mistake. But if we have roster depth and can edit lines (the old game crashes due to a bug that is now fixed) we could still have Feds / Datsyuk / Lidstrom etc. on the roster.
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3 hours ago, RT1977 said:
Just some general feelings for the Rom....
Thanks for the thoughtful response — I’ll try to answer everything clearly.
Frame of reference first:
This ROM is based on the original 2on2 league ROM that started 20 years ago. It is not built around current-season rosters. The teams are all-time franchise greats.The goal is to keep teams iconic, recognizable, and balanced for competitive 2-on-2 play.
Player ratings / clone ratings
Ratings are intentionally cloned.
This is by design. In a four-player league, the goal is to let skill decide outcomes, not AI advantages or wildly different attributes. When everyone is relatively equal, games come down to positioning, passing, timing, and execution — which has always been the spirit of the league.
So while individual players are historically great, ratings are kept even to preserve competitive integrity.
Player selection philosophy
Yes — the intent is exactly what you described:
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Best or most significant players per franchise
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Some subjectivity is unavoidable, especially for players who split careers across teams
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Focus on iconic franchise identities, not depth or role players.
Teams included / expansion teams
The new ROM will be based on the 32-team structure:
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All major original teams are included
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Some expansion teams may be excluded
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Atlanta is likely to be removed
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Nashville and Columbus are not currently planned (no strong reason to add them at this stage)
Two additional teams will be:
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Canada
These will feature top online 2on2 coaches from the past 20 years that have played online, rather than NHL / International players.
Widescreen
Widescreen has not been used previously in this league. It’s not ruled out, but it would require testing and isn’t guaranteed.
There are also legacy bugs to address first (for example, line editing crashes — a known issue from the original ROM dating back to 2008).
Fighting
Fighting is an incredible addition by chaos and may be added, but if included it will likely be disabled during exhibition play. It’s not a core focus of the project and would slow games down.
CPU vs human play / 5-on-5
This ROM is still built first and foremost for 2on2 human play, including weekly exhibitions like “2on2uesdays” with players from Discord. (video here
Playing vs CPU is still fun, but the ROM is not designed for that experience. A separate 5-on-5 version would be interesting someday, but that’s outside the scope of this project.
Final clarification
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A 20-year anniversary ROM of the 2on2 league
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Built around all-time franchise greats
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Focused on skill-based, balanced multiplayer gameplay
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Not a modern-season or stat-accurate simulation ROM.
Hope that clears everything up — appreciate the interest and the detailed feedback.
I've attached the last big update rom so you can check it out yourself.
*Keep in mind, a lot has changed in the community and in the NHL since 2008 or so when this rom was last updated.*-
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This spring marks 20 years since the 1st, 2on2 tournament.______________________________________________________
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To help commemorate those 20 years, I’m
consideringmaking an 20th-anniversary-ROM. Would like some feedback throughout the process.-
Franchises
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Anaheim Ducks - IN
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Ryan Getzlaf
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Ryan Getzlaf
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Boston Bruins - IN
- Bobby Orr
- Phil Esposito
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Ray Bourque
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Buffalo Sabres - IN
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Calgary Flames - IN
- Theoren Fleury
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Al MacInnis
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Carolina Hurricanes - IN
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Eric Staal
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Eric Staal
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Chicago Blackhawks- IN
- Jeremy Roenick
- Stan Mikita
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Bobby Hull
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Colorado Avalanche - IN
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Peter Forsberg
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Peter Forsberg
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Dallas Stars - IN
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Mike Modano
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Mike Modano
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Detroit Red Wings - IN
- Gordie Howe
- Steve Yzerman
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Sergei Fedorov
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Edmonton Oilers - IN
- Wayne Gretzky
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Jari Kurri
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Florida Panthers - IN
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Hartford Whalers - IN
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Los Angeles Kings - IN
- Luc Robitaille
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Dave Taylor
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Minnesota Wild - IN
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Montreal Canadiens - IN
- Maurice Richard
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Patrick Roy
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Nashville Predators - IN
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New Jersey Devils - IN
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Martin Brodeur
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Martin Brodeur
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New York Islanders- IN
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Mike Bossy
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Mike Bossy
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New York Rangers - IN
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Brian Leetch
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Brian Leetch
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Ottawa Senators - IN
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Philadelphia Flyers - IN
- Eric Lindros
- Bobby Clarke
- Bill Barber
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Bernie Parent
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Pittsburgh Penguins - IN
- Mario Lemieux
- Jaromir Jagr
- Sidney Crosby
- Kevin Stevens
- Evgeni Malkin
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Tom Barasso
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Quebec Nordiques - IN
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San Jose Sharks - IN
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St. Louis Blues - IN
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Brett Hull
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Brett Hull
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Tampa Bay Lighting - IN
- Martin St. Louis
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Shawn Chambers
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Toronto Maple Leafs - IN
- Wendel Clark
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Doug Gilmour
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Vancouver Canucks - IN
- Pavel Bure
- Trevor Linden
- Daniel Sedin
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Henrik Sedin
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Washington Capitals - IN
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Alex Ovechkin
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Alex Ovechkin
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Winnipeg Jets - IN
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Teemu Selanne
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Teemu Selanne
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✅ 2on2 National Legends - coaches have to submit their handedness and jersey #'s
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🇺🇸 Team USA (2on2 coaches from the last 20 years) - IN
- G - reserved
- G - reserved
- G- reserved
- F - jesusplaysnhl94, #94, left handed
- F - Kingraph
- F - Icestorm
- F - EA
- F - Donnybrook
- F - SOH
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F - Angryjay93
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🇨🇦 Team Canada (2on2 coaches from the last 20 years) - IN
- G - smozoma, #40, left glove
- G - reserved
- G - reserved
- F - HABS
- F - Sebe
- F - Freydey
- F - jer 33
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F - DanTML7 #4, LH, LD
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🇺🇸 Team USA (2on2 coaches from the last 20 years) - IN
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🤔 Logos for each franchise / which ones?
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✅ Updated sprites for more accurate unis.
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✅ Removing icing for fewer stoppages (suggested by Icestorm)
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✅ Crash bug fixes for editing lines and other things.
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✅ New splash screens / logos and other wrinkles.
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🤔 Uniforms / which ones
- Could do a particular era
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Could do home unis one era and away team another
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🤔 Rosters for each franchise?
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If starting lines have equalized ratings, should the rest of the rosters be clones or different forwards with career-high / peak ratings?-
✅ Skaters and goalies will have ratings based on their career high seasons and stats, and take into consideration their abilities
and playing styles. Forwards and goalies for coaches that are on Team Canada and Team USA will have equalized ratings.
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✅ Skaters and goalies will have ratings based on their career high seasons and stats, and take into consideration their abilities
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Wide-screen?- ✅ Limited feedback for wide-screen mode. Will be omitted from the 20th Anniversary ROM
Any other suggestions are welcome.
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I swore to never cross the threshold, 5 years ago. To never pass from 1994 posts to 1995 posts... But I am to break the great seal in honor of @chaos, for using the time stone to go back to the 90's and win the console wars for Genesis.
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VIDYAS
PICASSOS
ROMSA
- 2014 by Clockwise (original post)
- 2013 by Clockwise (original post)
- 2012 by Clockwise (original post)
- 2011 by Clockwise (original post)
JOEKS
WEBSIETS
https://jesusplaysnhl94.ytmnd.com/
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Robo-Ovi Strikes again!
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Does this mark the first time anyones actually edited visuals in EA / NHL Hockey?
Great stuff!
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1 hour ago, UltraMagnus said:
Then, there is 2K5 which is the holy grail and could still beat Madden today.
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Fight'n them demons within.
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That was joke. EA has been voted the worst company in America several times and they've destroyed many of amazing game studios by running them into the ground with unrealistic expectations.
So, just by using their current logo, not the old one, it is EA logo as a ruined structure. That's why I posted that pic of their current logo.
Basically, what I'm trying to say is, having to explain your joke is the true mark of a comedy genius.
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2 hours ago, bushhockeyfan said:
anyone wish we can find the picture of the EA logo as a ruined or wrecked structure as a satirical jab?
Found it:
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1 hour ago, LaTormenta said:
Next year, I plan to play a lot of online games, as by that point I will have (hopefully) mastered the art of manual goaltending
Might be the hardest thing to master, right next to pass shots. Maybe in a few years if you play consistently.
Much as I'd like to play, I tore my rotator cuff and it's really painful to do anything with my right hand.
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2 hours ago, UltraMagnus said:
Oh my friend...I'm pretty good at it.
If 21 is anything like 20, it's as good a year as ever to end it all.
Gotta watch my post count I only have a few left.
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Great effort.
Hope you're not good with predicting stuff.
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To be fair, I started it.
The fact that I, Clock J. Wise, AKA Jesusplaysnhl94, AKA Jesus, AKA Jebus, AKA Hāso͞os', AKA David Lo Pan, AKA Frank Dux, AKA Chester Copperpot, AKA Tom Servo, AKA The OG; now play SNES, shows how much we've grown together.
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On 11/25/2020 at 12:28 PM, segathon said:
We are going to get @clockwise to be the guest of honor at one of our NHL 95 Segathon tourneys and then burn him like in Wicker Man.
Cool I'll be sure to bring extra lighter fluid.
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33 minutes ago, CoachMac said:
Does anyone know what happened to Jeff?
I know he was sick. The last I know of him being around was when I was running 92 leagues in in 2015 and 2016.
He played in a couple of the seasons I ran. We talked on AIM and played lots of 92 exis.
Nope, can’t say I do.
Was in his 92 league back in 06.
Sent him a pm on his boards hopefully he responds and is doing well.
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16 minutes ago, UltraMagnus said:
Well it is happening, the new team being added. They are going in as a Non-Season team as the Big Country Wranglers (Will be used in Season 2).
Welcome the Antarctica Yetis(Arena-North Pole). Will have only 5 players. (2F, 2D, 1G), but 2 lines.
- SkiFree Yeti
- The Bumble (Rudolph the Red-nose Reindeer)
- Monsters, Inc. Yeti
- Hugo from Looney Tunes.
- Planet Hoth Wampa
Center Ice
Banner
Team Logo
Man thats so cool I nearly forgot it was 95 for a sec.
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Ski Free Yeti is best Yeti... Then Planet Hoth Wampa, then abominable snowman.
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Omg.... The Yeti from Ski Free!
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2 hours ago, UltraMagnus said:
Yeah I can add one and call them the "Antiartica 0s" and frozen the bone with no to play except a yeti.
You’re a god damn genius.
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58 minutes ago, don16086 said:
Does Rewind play online?
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Which team is gonna be the worst? Like, can we have a team with all 0's?
2on2, 20th Anniversary Edtion
in Genesis Roms
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Would be great but it's outside the scope of this project.
Yes, this makes sense.
Leetch would normally be at LW since putting a skater at a different position other than LW or C would be something that's never been done. Maybe we can have D-men at their natural position. Would def change how face-offs work for teams like Boston and New York R.
And thanks for sharing input about staters for those teams.
If you notice, at the time I decided not to mix players from different era's, but that will probably change as well.
However, if ratings aren't equalized, it will be interesting to see how things play out because players from earlier eras, especially pre-1990's, aren't considered to have the same foot speed / skill etc.
Some great suggestions, though.
who actually played more games for St. Louis, I think,are tricky. He did retire a Maple Leaf, though, and is a huge part of that era for them. Haven't decided if players can be on more than one team (ex: Gretz on EDM and LA). Would appreciate some feedback from the community on this.