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Content not viewable in my area....why would you do this to me.

They're asshats, that's why.

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VUVUZELA FTW

Eveyone's crying about this but I cant get why hockey fans are whining about this too...i mean, this sound is nothing compared to Pierre Mcguire's.

I support the VUVUZEGAS

Hell yes! f**king Pierre Mcgurie is the worst there was the worst there is and the worst there ever will be!

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God Vuvuzelas are annoying. f**king country of massive douches. It's not because it's a tradition that it's not moronic.

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After Day 5

13.44 – grayto

12.87 – xot82

11.89 – mav

11.04 - nationals1

9.29 – angryjay

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God Vuvuzelas are annoying. f**king country of massive douches. It's not because it's a tradition that it's not moronic.

a racist from boucherville? not suprising :)

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DAMN

Spain lost 1-0

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DAMN

Spain lost 1-0

and with that clockwise's bet against the field with switzerland catapulted him into first.

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CRAZY.

Spain has a chance of being knocked out in the group stage.

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After Day 6 - full standings

19.23 – clockwise

14.78 – xot82

14.11 – grayto

12.29 - nationals1

11.89 – mav

11.21 – angryjay

10.23 – iceguy

7.96 – fenty

7.26 – kupuck19

6.26 – freydey

5.01 – FPB

4.79 – beavers33

3.96 – donnybrook

3.81 – orangeblack

3.81 – shaftman

3.29 – rc69fab

2.71 – sebe

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a racist from boucherville? not suprising :)

Yeah i guess finding a tradition stupid is racist.

Well slaughter them womans with your rocks, if we empeached you it would be racist.

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The more attention you pay to horns the and the more annoyed you feel you need to be made by them, the less able you are to just ignore them. Just let your brain soak it in and filter it out.

I would say most of us live in cities or wannabe cities where there's plenty noise going around that we don't even think about. We filter garbage all time, but if you consciously make it a topic and a point of interest that's never going to happen.

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looks like robert green did make the save after all

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For the US, yes.

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After Day 7 - top 5

19.59 – clockwise

16.57 – grayto

16.45 – mav

15.14 – xot82

12.65 - nationals1

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This is one of the few times I'm glad I was wrong. Mexico won today!

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After Day 8 - top 5

19.59 – clockwise

18.77 – grayto

16.45 – mav

15.14 – xot82

14.85 - nationals1

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Making random picks based on the odds (ie being more likely to randomly pick the favoured team) should give you 13.800 at this point. You can calculate the expected value by taking the number of games played and multiplying by 0.6. 23*0.6=13.8.

I set up some random picks for myself and have 10.554 so far... All wrong in groups D, E, F, and H, so far -- brutal!

Thankfully I got the England-Algeria tie today for 4.00 points, or I'd be in reaaally bad shape.

My percentage is 30.4% correct so far... it should approach 33% as more games are played.

I'll send my picks in to Halifax, but won't be in the running for the prize.. I just want to see how well picking randomly does. You can use me as a baseline to see if your picks are better than random!

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Making random picks based on the odds (ie being more likely to randomly pick the favoured team) should give you 13.800 at this point. You can calculate the expected value by taking the number of games played and multiplying by 0.6. 23*0.6=13.8.

Actually, any picks should give you 13.800 on the average, doesn't matter if you're picking according to the odds.. i'd be interested in seeing the average score for everyone, to see if it follows the GP*0.6 expected value

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Making random picks based on the odds (ie being more likely to randomly pick the favoured team) should give you 13.800 at this point. You can calculate the expected value by taking the number of games played and multiplying by 0.6. 23*0.6=13.8.

where does the 0.6 multiplier number come from?

I set up some random picks for myself and have 10.554 so far... All wrong in groups D, E, F, and H, so far -- brutal!

you picked brazil to win their first game....don't forget the 0.13 points...you earned it bud!B)

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Actually, any picks should give you 13.800 on the average, doesn't matter if you're picking according to the odds.. i'd be interested in seeing the average score for everyone, to see if it follows the GP*0.6 expected value

The average score with you included is 11.59...without your entry, it is 11.50....through 25 games.

Of note, I have another pool running (8 members). Average score there through 25 games is 14.19.

Combining everyone into one pool brought an average score of 12.39.

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The average score with you included is 11.59...without your entry, it is 11.50....through 25 games.

Of note, I have another pool running (8 members). Average score there through 25 games is 14.19.

Combining everyone into one pool brought an average score of 12.39.

hm, the expected value through 25 games is 15.0.. I wonder if I've got my numbers wrong... or if people are just really bad at betting!

i think my formula is right, though, and it even takes into account that 'the house' is taking about 10% on each game...

if you bet for ties in all the games, you'd have 24.0 points right now -- that's probably why we're behind, the ties are over-valued, and people prefer to pick winners...

There have been 9 ties so far, but the expected number of ties is around 26% of 25 = 6.5.

so.. head on over to your local

and take some ties* B)

Anyone know if scoring is down this WC compared to others? I keep hearing that the players are having a hard time keeping the new ball down, so lots of shots are sailing over the net, which could create more 0-0 and 1-1 ties. Why would you introduce a new ball right at the start of the biggest soccer/football event in the world? gotta phase it in...

*but it could just be coincidence that we've had more ties that there should be so far and it'll balance out later, so you'll lose all your money.

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Anyone know if scoring is down this WC compared to others? I keep hearing that the players are having a hard time keeping the new ball down, so lots of shots are sailing over the net, which could create more 0-0 and 1-1 ties. Why would you introduce a new ball right at the start of the biggest soccer/football event in the world? gotta phase it in...

The ball was introduced in December and I know that some teams have used it in games since then, but I'm not sure if everyone has. Either way, I think teams had plenty of time to get used to it. But really...why is it necessary to come out with a new ball? Is it just a money grab?

I enjoy following the world cup, I think perhaps because it is the biggest stage for sporting event and I like the tournament format(including qualifying)...but because of the low scoring games in soccer...I pvr them and just watch some highlights instead of watching the whole thing.

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The ball was introduced in December and I know that some teams have used it in games since then, but I'm not sure if everyone has. Either way, I think teams had plenty of time to get used to it. But really...why is it necessary to come out with a new ball? Is it just a money grab?

I enjoy following the world cup, I think perhaps because it is the biggest stage for sporting event and I like the tournament format(including qualifying)...but because of the low scoring games in soccer...I pvr them and just watch some highlights instead of watching the whole thing.

i think they made a new ball last WC, too, one that curled more than the old one. i think it's a technology upgrade, but coupled with a money grab... the players would probably like if they introduced the new balls a year or two ahead of time, but I guess they want to hype it as being the WC ball and sell more... it is developed by a huge company, after all, it's in their interests to do it this way.

soccer would be better if it were hockey

get rid of 2-3 players so they can actually run with the ball without getting triple teamed within 2 seconds

allow more subs so the players are fresher

diving penalties

learn how to lead the man with the pass (guh, so many passes where the guy has to stop moving... these guys are the best in the world?)

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After Day 9

21.75 – clockwise

21.30 – grayto

17.68 – xot82

17.39 - nationals1

16.99 – mav

13.09 – Smozoma (will receive 5 NHL94 card sets for signing up courtesy of Evan)

12.86 – iceguy

12.63 – shaftman

12.10 – angryjay

12.00 – FPB

9.25 – freydey

8.85 – fenty

8.39 – rc69fab

8.15 – kupuck19

7.31 – beavers33

5.80 – sebe

4.85 – donnybrook

4.70 – orangeblack

Please check your scores to see if they match up (it's possible the score may be off by .01 or so due to rounding). If it is a significant difference, let know so I can double check the numbers.

*Cameroon was eliminated from the world cup.

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where does the 0.6 multiplier number come from?

arned it bud!B)

whoops i missed this question

There are 3 options for each game, win/lose/tie.

Pretend the odds of each happening are the same, 33.3..%.

So if you bet 1$ on something, you should get 3$ in return (3 is the 'inverse' of 0.333. 1/0.333 = 3).

But they don't include your original dollar in these odds we're using, so you get 2.00 points in this contest.

So if you make a correct bet, you get 2.00 points, but you'll only be correct 33% of the time, so that's 2.00x33% = 66% = 0.66.

As it turns out, the odds used for this contest make it so the true expected value is 0.6, instead of 0.66. I.e., 'the house' keeps roughly 10%.

Here's an example...

If you want to know the % chance of a result, you can do this:

The betting odds for Paraguay winning tomorrow are 0.952.

1+0.952 = 1.952

1/1.952 = 0.512 = 51.2%

Odds for a tie are 2.20

1 / (1+2.20) = 31.25%

Odds of Slovakia winning:

1 / (1+3.00) = 25%

But hold on a second.. 51.2+31.25+25 = 107.45% !! Why is that?

Remember that the lower the payout, the higher chance of the team winning.. so if they inflate the chances of winning to over 100%, then the payouts become lower, less than 100%, and the house makes money.

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After Day 10

22.42 – clockwise

21.97 – grayto

18.06 - nationals1

17.68 – xot82

17.66 – mav

14.48 – iceguy

14.26 – shaftman

14.04 – Smozoma

13.73 – angryjay

12.00 – FPB

10.88 – freydey

10.48 – fenty

9.06 – rc69fab

8.82 – kupuck19

8.26 – beavers33

6.48– donnybrook

6.47 – sebe

5.37 – orangeblack

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whoops i missed this question

There are 3 options for each game, win/lose/tie.

Pretend the odds of each happening are the same, 33.3..%.

So if you bet 1$ on something, you should get 3$ in return (3 is the 'inverse' of 0.333. 1/0.333 = 3).

But they don't include your original dollar in these odds we're using, so you get 2.00 points in this contest.

So if you make a correct bet, you get 2.00 points, but you'll only be correct 33% of the time, so that's 2.00x33% = 66% = 0.66.

As it turns out, the odds used for this contest make it so the true expected value is 0.6, instead of 0.66. I.e., 'the house' keeps roughly 10%.

Here's an example...

If you want to know the % chance of a result, you can do this:

The betting odds for Paraguay winning tomorrow are 0.952.

1+0.952 = 1.952

1/1.952 = 0.512 = 51.2%

Odds for a tie are 2.20

1 / (1+2.20) = 31.25%

Odds of Slovakia winning:

1 / (1+3.00) = 25%

But hold on a second.. 51.2+31.25+25 = 107.45% !! Why is that?

Remember that the lower the payout, the higher chance of the team winning.. so if they inflate the chances of winning to over 100%, then the payouts become lower, less than 100%, and the house makes money.

Interesting stuff...thanks bud.

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After Day 11

23.82 – clockwise

23.37 – grayto

19.46 - nationals1

19.06 – mav

18.08 – xot82

15.88 – iceguy

15.66 – shaftman

15.13 – angryjay

14.24 – Smozoma

12.20 – FPB

11.08 – freydey

10.88 – fenty

10.22 – kupuck19

9.46 – rc69fab

8.66 – beavers33

7.68– donnybrook

6.87 – sebe

5.77 – orangeblack

Final 16 games over the next 4 days!

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After Day 12

26.69 – clockwise

23.99 – grayto

21.92 – mav

21.70 - nationals1

20.94 – xot82

18.75 – iceguy

17.99 – angryjay

16.27 – shaftman

14.86 – Smozoma

13.32 – freydey

12.82 – FPB

11.71 – rc69fab

10.88 – fenty

10.84 – kupuck19

9.28 – beavers33

8.64 – orangeblack

8.29– donnybrook

6.87 – sebe

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