RedWingDevil Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 This had called my attention for quite a while, so I should address it here. I have noticed that in the Genesis version the goalies have more animations on save attempts whereas in the SNES version they're rather lacking in number. This is a little homework for the ROM experts to see how many animations exist in both versions for the sake of comparison. Pics, of course, are welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaftman Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 uh I thought the SNES had more sprites for the saves. The gens goalie does the butterfly which is cool. Snes goalies cover up the puck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavers33 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 i always thought gens had less animations. could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trudatman Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 can't speak to the Genesis one, but I often find myself amazed at the variety of moves in the SNES game. got to love being able to simply instantly switch to the goalie and stack the pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWingDevil Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 (edited) Well, apart from having played a lot of games on the SNES version, I haven't seen that many animations on it. On the Genesis version I've seen a lot of them, and it's not just with the leg pads; the goalies use the glove and stick in various ways to either catch the puck or block it and on top of that they can manage to do some of them in a few different angles, trying to block a shot if it's made from the side or from a lob. Pictures are welcome so that we can compare them better. Right-handed goalies with the glove on that hand also apply. I admit that the other glove attempts in SNES look good, though. Edited August 20, 2010 by RedWingDevil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trudatman Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 so you are talking about a particular type of save attempt? I'm not sure I follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 why not just play a game and take a bunch of shots/dekes.. and every time the goalie does something new, go into instant replay and take a screenshot... instead of asking "ROM experts" to spend their time on it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavers33 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 (edited) why not just play a game and take a bunch of shots/dekes.. and every time the goalie does something new, go into instant replay and take a screenshot... instead of asking "ROM experts" to spend their time on it.. BRILLIANT! Edited August 20, 2010 by beavers33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockwise Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Having edited all of them in the past, and for the upcoming NHL11 rom, I could name them off the top of my head.. Some of the more arcane saves aren't seen much because they need awkward, sharp angle shots. I can say unequivocally that I have no idea which version has more goalie sprites, but a screen shot of the goalie sprite field(s) from both games in TM could provide an answer - though it's difficult to see them in that canvas | block size. The Gens version doesn't mirror all the goalie sprites, in some instances.. Like one of the 3 types of glove saves has a sprite for facing left and right, even though they appear to be the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceStorm70 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 The oddest save I've seen of late is the one on a backhand to forehand deke pass shot, the goalie basically pushes their stick and knee out. looks weird. gens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trudatman Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 if you can show me the tiles from SNES organized in a way that allows for such an experience, I will thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 weirdest save I can remember is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWingDevil Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 what about a video file? Will that satisfy you? Of course, I can't record on ZNES, so I think I'm gonna have to use Snes9x. Although I don't know who can handle those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 what about a video file? Will that satisfy you? I don't know, this was your challenge to begin with :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavers33 Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 what about a video file? Will that satisfy you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 coincidentally, i came across this thread today that explains how to see the sprites clearly in Tile Molester. The last image is the result for nhl94 on the genesis. it's not perfectly clear in 94 since a lot of tiles get jumbled, but it might be good enough for you to check out the answer to your question. I suspect that the technique will work with SNES ROMs, too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trudatman Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 I suspect it wouldn't. the SNES images are so jumbled... they even seem to overwrite each other, essentially having multiple (drastically different) pieces of the data using the same image parts. I hope I'm wrong, but open the SNES ROM image and peek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 rare save (genesis) click to view animation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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