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Hey, has anyone checked out the files yet, see if it can be edited easily? I've just picked up the game from EB, and actually i've got a playoff game going right now between my brother and i and its paused, so i can't take the DVD out and stick it in my PC yet

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Hey, has anyone checked out the files yet, see if it can be edited easily? I've just picked up the game from EB, and actually i've got a playoff game going right now between my brother and i and its paused, so i can't take the DVD out and stick it in my PC yet

Okay I checked out DESI\NHL94.SR and it seems to be a container file of sorts. This is the "header" of the file:

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I did a search in NHL94.SR and I found players names like Lafond and Sweep (fake player names for Gretzky and Muller)... I think it should be editable if someone like wboy can figure out how to edit this container file without messing things up. I also found it interesting that WAV files are used in place of the sound effects. If sound emulation is totally done using these wav files, we could easily insert the Sega CD music files on top of these ones

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do you have a mod chip?

if so, dump the NHL06 DVD to and ISO using DVD Decrypter.

Open it in a hex editor, find "Sweep". Change the first character, save the ISO, and burn it to a DVD.

Load the hacked DVD and see if the game still work on the PS2. Would be a good first test to see if hacking the 94 Retro will work.

Not sure when NHL06 hits Australian shores so it could be a short while before I can look at it myself.

Also, post a shot of the hex editor screen where you found the data Sweep so I can see what it looks like :D

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firstsweep0ak.jpg

secondsweep2fx.jpg

Theres two occurances of the name for each player. I extracted the NHL94.SR file using UltraISO and then put it back into the .iso file, but I think I screwed something up because it didn't boot for me (and yes I have a modchip, or else I wouldn't be able to use PGEN :D). Maybe I needed to regenerate the MDS file or something. The disc wasn't even being recognized as a PS2 disc.

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Oh boy, the sound emulation in NHL '94 retro is brutal. It can only play like one or two sound effects at the same time, so the crowd will cheer and boo, but you won't hear the crowd "noise". Also the organ music stops playing once you drop the puck. If it starts playing at random during gameplay, once another sound effect kicks in (sound made when checking a player for example) the music will just stop.

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(and yes I have a modchip, or else I wouldn't be able to use PGEN :D).

Not techinally true ;).... I actually don't have a modchip installed, but admittedly I do make use of the memory card exploit.

Good work on the pics. Thanks for that. Yeah I did think about having to use an ISO extract tool after I posted originally, but I gathered from your other posts you knew what you where doing! ;)

Infact, the day I add SegaCD compatibility to the editor (it will publically be released before then), it will most likely use the same method (extract DATA.BIN, edit it in the editor, then wack it back into the ISO).

Interesting pics. Doubling up seems very odd.... but the goods news is the team data structure looks identical from what I can see, meaning if we can successfully export and reimport the file into the ISO, making it compatible with my editor shouldn't be too big of a headache. Then again, with the state of the audio you described, I'm not sure if I'd make it a priority to add its supports... that pretty dismall...

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I've managed to put Sidney Crosby in place of Shane Corson in NHL HITZ PRO and reburned it and used it on my modded PS2 so I am sure something can be done here. Went to pick up the pc version of 06 last night but they only had XBox and PS2 versions and well I am only buying one verion of the game. I'll "aquire" the PS2 version hopefully today or tomorrow. :D

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Then again, with the state of the audio you described, I'm not sure if I'd make it a priority to add its supports... that pretty dismall...

Well, I don't mind the organ screw ups if we were able to put in the Sega CD music on top of the versions they have, and the lack crowd noise could be "fixed" if we just added fading away crowd noise after certain sound effects (checks, puck hit the post, goal siren, cheers, boos), but it depends on there being memory limitations for the size of the SR file. Its 39 megs, so I don't think the PS2 has enough memory to fit it in, I'm guessing they stream a lot of the audio and only keep certain sound effects in memory.

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