smozoma Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Which way do you say it? Is it a geographical thing? Was Briere's goal offside or offsides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da94wookiee Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Depends on context. The goal was offsides, but the player was offside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted April 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 I don't get it I've never heard it (EDIT: offsides) before, other than on forums. Is it from football? soccer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da94wookiee Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Never heard what before? Offside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted April 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 That's plural offsides. Penalties and Offsides (and Icings). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted April 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Hm the game manual calls it off-sides, pretty weird! But Kerry Fraser is pretty consistent, offside: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=392960 Kerry, Can you explain why Danny Briere's goal counted even though it was offside? James Israelson If a linesman missed an offside call during a regular season game ... People in Philadelphia still vilify linesman Leon Stickle for missing the offside goal in overtime scored by Bob Nystrom ... Danny Briere's offside goal ... a missed offside call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da94wookiee Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 haha The plural thing is a good point. For example, "They were off-sides" and "He was off-side" Additionally, I believe "Off-Sides" is the noun and "Off-Side" is the adjective form. If you're describing a goal or a player, you'd say "Off-Side" But if you're talking about the general idea of it, you'd say "Off-Sides" Keep in mind with the Kerry Fraser thing, he's not writing those quotes. The guy who does transcription could be writing it the way he thinks of it and leaving off the last "s" in some cases. I could be wrong. The only books I ever read as a kid was the NHL '94 User Manual & Strategy Book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 NHL rules call it "off-side" http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26497 I think I use both actually, I never thought about it before. Now that I'm cognizant of it, I don't think I'll ever add the "s" again! I could be wrong. The only books I ever read as a kid was the NHL '94 User Manual & Strategy Book. You mean the great Inside NHL'94 Official Strategy Guide by the great Corey Sandler??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted April 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 haha The plural thing is a good point. For example, "They were off-sides" and "He was off-side" Additionally, I believe "Off-Sides" is the noun and "Off-Side" is the adjective form. If you're describing a goal or a player, you'd say "Off-Side" But if you're talking about the general idea of it, you'd say "Off-Sides" Keep in mind with the Kerry Fraser thing, he's not writing those quotes. The guy who does transcription could be writing it the way he thinks of it and leaving off the last "s" in some cases. I could be wrong. The only books I ever read as a kid was the NHL '94 User Manual & Strategy Book. To me, it sounds exactly like saying, "they were insides the house" I googled "Briere offsides" and there is a definite Canada/USA split on this. Offside: CBC, TSN, The Score, Sun NBC, Sports Illustrated Offsides: ESPN, AOL/SportingNews, LetsGoPens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceStorm70 Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Really? Is tjis really a topic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted April 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 I need to understand! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da94wookiee Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Really? Is tjis really a topic? tjis or this? in the ga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trudatman Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 I've been holding back a bit, but that isn't me, so here goes: offside calls happen in both directions. there are two sides/directions to the rule. it is a pluralized concept that is most correctly referred to in a constant singularity. kids think about the two sides and players breaking the rule that defines the sides and thus it often gets an extra letter. it isn't correct, but my ROM calls it offsides because that's what the average American idiot would yell in a pickup game (shinny, for the Canadan Americans among us) or scrimmage. it's like so many people pronouncing the word for a skill like the word for a musical approach. if everybody mispronounces forte, it's probably only a matter of time before we are spelling it as "fortay." language is fluid. off-side/offside is the more correct way to refer to the concept in question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted April 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 My take on the reason why the game has it wrong is, well, the game has it right: Penalties: Off, no offsides. Penatlies are off, and there are no offsides(plural, "there are no offside calls, there are no offsides / there are no penalty calls, there are no penalties"). The manual, however, to me, is messed up. Notice that the ref is saying it correctly (he called "off-side" -- the name of the infraction, as in icing, tripping, roughing, etc), but manual's arrow to the player says he's "off-sides"! I suspect the game was written according to some correct specs, but when someone got around to writing the manual, something got lost in translation, and they thought "off-sides" was the name of the rule, not the plural of the name of the rule/call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Robbie Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 In football (Soccer) we always say offside, but when I worked in NJ for a couple of years they called it offsides, so for me its an american thing to say offsides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wittgenstein Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 offsides in every context Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halifax Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 This thread is offside(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted April 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Listening to radio broadcasts from all the cities... Chicago: offside Phoenix: offside Pittsburgh: offside x2 Philadelphia: offside x3 0 "offsides" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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