halfMANhalfDONUT Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 But it is what keeps 94 flourishing. Yeah you guys say respect this and respect that and it's all for fun but really do you expect people to believe you don't scream and swear at your screen when you lose? Seriously lol everyone does it. Getting frustrated while playing and keeping it to yourself is not comparable to trolling and being a poor sport. If you want, you can make a trolling classic league where only 12% of the guys finish because of "lag," "controller," "obama" issues. Being a good sport is an excellent life skill to learn. Just because we're online and (somewhat) anonymous doesn't mean you have to bang everyone's mom and out them for being homosexual. It's ok to just say "good game, it was nice playing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlabaxV2 Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) But what sense does it make to ban someone in a league that is designed for competition over fun because he's a poor sport? You will ALWAYS have a poor sport in a competitive league, that's how competitive people are. The fact is Houly is way more valuable than most people here and what will happen if we unban him? Nothing bad and very very likely something good as he will improve the community. The guy is not going to murder us all if unbanned. What can he do at worst, refuse to play games? Cool we already have worse people who refuse games aswell. Silly then just mix the leagues. Houly is not your poor sport who will pause in game and scream because he's losing. Edited August 30, 2013 by PlabaxV2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kupuck19 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 You will ALWAYS have a poor sport in a competitive league, that's how competitive people are. I highly disagree, true competitors still display good sportsmanship win or lose. Controlling your emotions in defeat is much more admirable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 But what sense does it make to ban someone in a league that is designed for competition over fun because he's a poor sport?I've always seen Classic as the fun league, not too serious. People play as the Sharks!The fact is Houly is way more valuable than most people hereHold up, Hitler The fact is Houly is way more valuable than most people here and what will happen if we unban him? Nothing bad and very very likely something good as he will improve the community. The guy is not going to murder us all if unbanned. What can he do at worst, refuse to play games? Cool we already have worse people who refuse games aswell. Silly then just mix the leagues. Houly is not your poor sport who will pause in game and scream because he's losing.Worst case is he causes loads of drama and headaches yet again for numerous people. I'm not particularly against him coming back, up to the mods and classic guys who need to deal with him. He was often really annoying in Blitz, I had to block him a few times, so I can definitely understand them not wanting the headaches. Maybe he's changed, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wittgenstein Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) i'm against throwing players under the bus and all that shee (plabax) but, it's like, a lot of us folks who have been chatting with houly late night for a while now are in a position to judge whether houly has changed and can come back-- and all of us are vouching for him and want him back. the people who are against him coming back are the ones that either have him blocked on aim or don't aim chat with him. houly is cool guy. it's nice to have some interesting characters on the forums and in the leagues-- and houly is certainly interesting dude that adds character to 94. we aren't all yuppies (yet) who just want to play game and say gg and then go tend to kids and job stuff and whatnot. it's nice to have entertaining characters around. houly made some mistakes (that aren't even that bad; he didn't pull drp1zza and spam the site with porn); and can you even count making a second account to play as a mistake? he was banned and wanted to play-- what was he supposed to do? Edited August 30, 2013 by Wittgenstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceStorm70 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Houly's posting privledges are inthe process of being restored. A quorum of Admins decided it was ok to give him another shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 He can sign up again, his stuff has been unbanned, but his name must have been deleted at some point and I can't get it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trudatman Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 welcome back, Houli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokkeefan Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Cool,good stuff guys ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Robbie Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Haha. Stunning turn around from the mods! This is going to be interesting. Will he behave or will he be so excited to be back that he'll just go nuts after a few days? Lol. Great drama in the '94 community. Welcome back Houli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcicon5148 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I hope he plays a drama free / BS free season. No denying he is a quality player when he isn't pissing everybody off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I meant the forums, not Classic league. One step at a time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 kaka poop donkey fart... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 BoK gave me a heads up that my next post was gonna be my 2,000th and it should be important. I started to feel a lot of pressure. I feel relieved now that it's over...999 to go before my next milestone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo Knows NHL94 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 BoK gave me a heads up that my next post was gonna be my 2,000th and it should be important. I started to feel a lot of pressure. I feel relieved now that it's over...999 to go before my next milestone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfMANhalfDONUT Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 But what sense does it make to ban someone in a league that is designed for competition over fun because he's a poor sport? You will ALWAYS have a poor sport in a competitive league, that's how competitive people are. The fact is Houly is way more valuable than most people here and what will happen if we unban him? Nothing bad and very very likely something good as he will improve the community. The guy is not going to murder us all if unbanned. What can he do at worst, refuse to play games? Cool we already have worse people who refuse games aswell. Silly then just mix the leagues. Houly is not your poor sport who will pause in game and scream because he's losing. That's not at all true. Poor sports are just like spoiled little children. If they can't have their way, they try to ruin it for everyone else. Not all competitive leagues have them. If he is already playing in other leagues, why does he need to be unbanned for this one? Especially when there is a clear split between people loving and hating the drama. Also, if you don't enjoy the people who fill out the Classic rosters, you don't have to play in it. Like I said, you could start your own league with as much nonsense as you like. Ultimately the decision is not mine to make, but having had bad experiences in the past with other poor sports, I'd rather keep him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokkeefan Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 hater lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKabs93 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 That's not at all true. Poor sports are just like spoiled little children. If they can't have their way, they try to ruin it for everyone else. Not all competitive leagues have them. If he is already playing in other leagues, why does he need to be unbanned for this one? Especially when there is a clear split between people loving and hating the drama. Also, if you don't enjoy the people who fill out the Classic rosters, you don't have to play in it. Like I said, you could start your own league with as much nonsense as you like. Ultimately the decision is not mine to make, but having had bad experiences in the past with other poor sports, I'd rather keep him out. Yeah hokkee is right lol hater. Who are you to say houly shouldn't be let back into classic anyways? 94 is a small enough community as it is. You should have to practically e-murder someone to be banned for any length of time. Houly is a good player who loves the game. People who have no personal bad experiences with him should not be saying we'd be better off without him. Btw thanks mods for allowing the first step of posting privileges! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kupuck19 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) 94 is a small enough community as it is. So small we should unban wags next! We wouldn't be able to function with such a horribly low number of active members. Edited August 31, 2013 by kupuck19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlabaxV2 Posted August 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Lol who cares lol Houly is good on the ice and that should greatly overpower his "behaviour". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Robbie Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 So small we should unban wags next! We wouldn't be able to function with such a horribly low number of active members. Free Wags!!!! Free Wags!!!! Someone start a thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlabaxV2 Posted August 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Houly is a good guy but a couple of people here are way too sensitive for an online community. It's very easy to ignore Houly if he's trying to get under your skin. Not to mention he's fn hilarious. The guy is happy to play me all the time even if it means he's losing all of the exis Stuff on the ice should matter way more. People pausing when you have the puck and just being a cheeser while in-game is what should get people banned, like mav. Not because you wanted to drop a league or make some Cory guy waste 20 minutes of his life. I already had to miss GENS C playoffs because of an opponent pausing the game randomly and unpausing to score game winners and there was not even the slightest punishment. My opponent said it was a mistake which is fine with me, but there was no punishment. The things that should be taken more seriously are taken way too lightly and the things that should be taken lightly are taken too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trudatman Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 well, after a bunch of posts in this thread, I think you finally made a good point. cheaters are at least as bad as shittalkers. when your posts claim to be making serious points followed immediately by "lol," I imagine those participating in leagues with you wish there was a minimum age or maturity level test for applicants. the concept of being good at online play balancing out poor attitudes on the boards is weak, at best. is it that some guys can be cruel and awful because they get their games in and can compete against other great players and I can't joke around because I don't play over the Internet? you have at least as much maturing to do, Plaby, as the guy who keeps implying acronyms for supposedly nasty words he feels compelled to use in the direction of others out of anger. "we all swear at the screen and throw controllers when we lose" is not only a terrible justification for bad behavior, it's also simply not the truth. I very seriously believe you should look into the benefits meditation could offer you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Houly is a good guy but a couple of people here are way too sensitive for an online community. It's very easy to ignore Houly if he's trying to get under your skin. Exactly People pausing when you have the puck and just being a cheeser while in-game is what should get people banned, like mav. Not because you wanted to drop a league or make some Cory guy waste 20 minutes of his life. Both of these things will get you banned from Classic. Not sure what happened to you, and I can't recall any issues. All of this behavior detracts from the community and causes headaches for commissioners. Nobody wants that. You never know if "some Cory guy" may have developed into the next great player and community member, but was turned off by his experience with an a**hole from the community. Who are you to say houly shouldn't be let back into classic anyways? Marchawg makes all valid points. He also plays all of his games, treats people with respect, has a lot of fun, made a killer website, etc. Is he an "A" player who "gets under peoples skin" and is "fn hilarious"? No. But I think you're starting to understand that's actually NOT the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceStorm70 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 I think what people tend to forget is this is not just your average online gaming community. This whole site and community we owe gratitude to Evan. He created the site which has provided years of fun and entertainment for 100's of people. It's his site and we should abide by his rules and vision on how this forum should be used. Things have been run far from perfect, however the guidelines and rules for this forum are clear. People can argue all they want about what they feel is acceptable and not acceptable, but at the end of the day the only guidelines and rules that should be followed are those Evan implemented at the beginning. Good SportsmanshipThis is the first thing you should keep in mind when deciding to play in leagues and vs. others online. No one wants to play against someone who talks unnecessary smack or behaves immaturely. This type of behavior will NOT be tolerated in this community. Take the tough losses like an adult. http://nhl94online.com/html/getting-started.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Houly should be able to post now. There was an issue with registration. Please let him know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Icestorm hit the nail on the head. We have to remember this community is Evan's, and we should abide by his rules. I'd say for the most part, moderators have been pretty lenient on vulgar language and bad behavior on the forums. Let's respect Evan's rules and guidelines and show good sportsmanship. Plabax, you are starting to contradict yourself. You say let someone who has dropped out of a number of classic leagues and caused some problems play because he is "A" league material and there aren't enough A skill guys. You also say that what's the big deal if he drops, we can replace him with a B league guy. But you said that we keep filling A league with "B league filler" and it ruins the league. I agree with you that there is a large gap between A and B league skill. We try to keep A league intact throughout the season because of this reason. But when an A leaguer drops out, then we need to scramble and fill his spot with a B league guy, who is no where near the same skill as the guy who dropped. So, what you are saying is to let Houly play A, and the worst thing he can do is drop out. But then we need to fill his spot with a B leaguer, which in your opinion waters down the A league and the competition. I feel if we let Houly play again, then we need to let Mav play again. How would people feel about that? Maybe when Houly drops, we can fill his spot with Mav. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kupuck19 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 I feel if we let Houly play again, then we need to let Mav play again. How would people feel about that? Maybe when Houly drops, we can fill his spot with Mav. That's very true, seems like the precedent was set by unbanning hokkee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKabs93 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Marchawg makes all valid points. He also plays all of his games, treats people with respect, has a lot of fun, made a killer website, etc. Is he an "A" player who "gets under peoples skin" and is "fn hilarious"? No. But I think you're starting to understand that's actually NOT the point. You're right, I'm sorry marchawg lol. I posted that at like 3am last night so I must have been in a tired daze dreaming about houly's upcoming funny posts. Marchawg made some good points I just didn't like the fact that he said if it were up to him houly wouldn't be allowed in. My fault for taking that line too seriously lol. I can't help it that I have a houly-hardon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokkeefan Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) Icestorm hit the nail on the head. We have to remember this community is Evan's, and we should abide by his rules. I'd say for the most part, moderators have been pretty lenient on vulgar language and bad behavior on the forums. Let's respect Evan's rules and guidelines and show good sportsmanship. Plabax, you are starting to contradict yourself. You say let someone who has dropped out of a number of classic leagues and caused some problems play because he is "A" league material and there aren't enough A skill guys. You also say that what's the big deal if he drops, we can replace him with a B league guy. But you said that we keep filling A league with "B league filler" and it ruins the league. I agree with you that there is a large gap between A and B league skill. We try to keep A league intact throughout the season because of this reason. But when an A leaguer drops out, then we need to scramble and fill his spot with a B league guy, who is no where near the same skill as the guy who dropped. So, what you are saying is to let Houly play A, and the worst thing he can do is drop out. But then we need to fill his spot with a B leaguer, which in your opinion waters down the A league and the competition. I feel if we let Houly play again, then we need to let Mav play again. How would people feel about that? Maybe when Houly drops, we can fill his spot with Mav. Houly wont screw up again Edited August 31, 2013 by hokkeefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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