aqualizard Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) Update: This League is happening now, and here is the ROM: NHL94PnP.bin Update 2: The gamesaves can be submitted now. See Stats Thread Below is the original first message... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello, with the success of Plab's small, tight league (no slackers!) I am thinking of other league ideas. Would you play in a league where: 8 guys, 4 As, 4 Bs B level picks from complete Classic list, A level pick from bottom 5 Each team plays the other team 2x (home and away), for 14 games total Aim for 7 games per week, so: season complete in 2 weeks No playoffs. Whoever has most wins, wins (If there is a tie, we then look at: GF, GA) As and Bs draft teams separately based on random draw I am wondering if A guys would consider such a league? On the one hand, it is more fun to play with a stacked roster. However being able to compete with a crappy team would be a real testament of skill! And of course, things would balance out between As and Bs, or at least balance better. Let me know your thoughts, especially A players. If the idea sucks, no biggie, just thinking out loud here. Edit: I updated the rules above as the discussion evolved, so they were slightly refined, though the spirit of the idea remains. Edited February 15, 2017 by aqualizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Depch Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 There have been two classic leagues that have had adjusted drafting. But people wanted to go back to full random. I like playing with handicap, I am used to playing without superstars. I am propably on the minority.http://nhl94online.com/html/standings.php?lg=23http://nhl94online.com/html/standings.php?lg=25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachMac Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 I have proposed this before. Wt Bug Fixed Classic would work great for this. So would my Historic Roms. We also play this way at my Live events. You could come by my place on your way to Vegas next fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 The problem with this idea is that a team like the Penguins might fall into the category of bottom 16 teams, and an elite A guy can use them just as efficiently as they can use a perceived top 10 team if not better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 That's a good point. Maybe have some "bans." After the B coaches all pick their teams, they could vote on which other teams to ban, so the A coaches can't use them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jer_33 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 This is as good a thread as any. I mentioned these ideas in a conversation with Depch. Idea 1: A survivor-style tournament where a win allows you to "trade" a player with the losing team. Idea 2: I have a mostly complete list of 1994 NHL salaries that could be used for a true salary cap league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqualizard Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 54 minutes ago, Depch said: I like playing with handicap, I am used to playing without superstars. I am propably on the minority. Cool! So can I pencil you in, if this thing happens? I figure at least 4 A guys are needed to "maintain the integrity" of the idea... 53 minutes ago, CoachMac said: I have proposed this before. Wt Bug Fixed Classic would work great for this. So would my Historic Roms. We also play this way at my Live events. You could come by my place on your way to Vegas next fall. Coach, I don't want to do any hacks to the Classic ROM. As for swinging by your place, that would be awesome! But it is unlikely to happen Sept 23rd... would need to be a summer time, if I werein that area. (I do hope Ko94 ][ is in Vegas!!) 43 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: The problem with this idea is that a team like the Penguins might fall into the category of bottom 16 teams, and an elite A guy can use them just as efficiently as they can use a perceived top 10 team if not better. I get your point. But, I think if I played CHI or DET against KingRaph's PIT, I would win some games. He is one of the best guys, and I am a middle-B guy, and he would still beat me > 75% of time, but I would win some. I think. Hell, I'd love to try. Also, chances are that Raph would not get first pick, so he is more likely to get stuck with STL or NJ or even TB. The bottom 10 (that is, 17-26) from here are: PIT STL WSH NJ NYI SJ TB FLA OTW ANH Perhaps I should make it bottom 8, from WSH onward? Or maybe A guys will take it as a challenge and badge of honor and *want* to play an ANH or OTW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Depch Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, aqualizard said: The bottom 10 (that is, 17-26) from here are: PIT STL WSH NJ NYI SJ TB FLA OTW ANH Perhaps I should make it bottom 8, from WSH onward? Or maybe A guys will take it as a challenge and badge of honor and *want* to play an ANH or OTW? Pit,Stl,Wsh,Njd,Nyi are still quite ok teams. Pit has Lemieux and wicked D + great AI goalie behind. Variables in Jagr, Mullen, Straka, Francis, Stevens etc. Stl is very good on offence Emerson-Hull-Bassen is what I used, buggers around Hull in Classic. Brown & Butcher stay down low well and Joseph is good. Wsh is strange, it has great combination of players in Bondra, Kristich etc. But is hard to come by with a good chemistry. Their D is very good and it can be a wicked CB-team. Njd has one of the best chemistries from all of Classic, there's just something extra there that makes it very much fun to play with. Zelepukin, Semak and shooter in Richer, Stevens & Fetisov I love at D. Terreri great G for manual. Nyi offence is very good, Hogue-Turgeon-Thomas. Lacks in defence and goalie. This can perform very well. I used to play quite some with Nyi & Njd in Finnish classic matchups. Used STL in one of the adjusted drafts. The teams behind these are with severe handicaps and it would be interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqualizard Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Depch said: The teams behind these are with severe handicaps and it would be interesting. So you think from SJ down? SJ TB FLA OTW ANH Would you play if you were limited to those 5? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Depch Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, aqualizard said: Would you play if you were limited to those 5? I'm up for the challenge. I actually think Ottawa is the worst of the bunch. I have trouble building a nice lineup with Ottawa. I also dislike Tampa Bay even though they got Bradley, their defence is just not good at all. Anaheim at least has some serviceable guys in Yake, Semenov, Kasatonov and I enjoy playing them. Florida also has at least G.Murphy & Beezer to build some back end. San Jose is decent in speed and Kisio is can surprise as well. Edited January 27, 2017 by Depch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Yeah, without sounding too arrogant, I dont believe you can win a game vs me using PIT. I'm with Depch, SJ down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqualizard Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, kingraph said: Yeah, without sounding too arrogant, I dont believe you can win a game vs me using PIT. I'm with Depch, SJ down. Ok, fair enough. So would you play in a league of this type? I figure I need at least 4 A guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Depch Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) This would have to be a fast paced compact league type. I don't think I want to commit to 2 main leagues at the same time that both take a couple of months to complete. Edited January 27, 2017 by Depch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, aqualizard said: Ok, fair enough. So would you play in a league of this type? I figure I need at least 4 A guys. Yeah...But as Depch said, would think of this as a quick league. With Brutus doing his, Plablegs, etc...Would be a lot at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqualizard Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, Depch said: This would have to be a fast paced compact league type. I don't think I want to commit to 2 main leagues at the same time that both take a couple of months to complete. Sure, no prob. This is in the feeling out stage. But it is encouraging two top coaches are up for the challenge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylewat Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 On 1/27/2017 at 3:59 PM, kingraph said: Yeah, without sounding too arrogant, I dont believe you can win a game vs me using PIT. I'm with Depch, SJ down. I agree. Those last 5 teams are really quite horrid, and might well provide a good challenge. KingRaph is quite good with NJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Russian Rocket Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 Edmonton, despite Klima's existence is quite putrid. I'd put PIT or NYI ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqualizard Posted February 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 So Zep and FPB, do you guys have the testicular fortitude to try your hand with one of the bottom 5 teams? If this league happened it would be spaced for some "down time" between other, more major, leagues... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Depch Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) This should be more of a fast tournament/league type that lasts max for 1-2 weeks for me. So nothing too big. Players who are able to get their games in with ease. Edited February 7, 2017 by Depch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Russian Rocket Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 yeah i'd kick ur asses with TB for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Depch Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 Out of the bottom 5 I like Anaheim & San Jose. San Jose is on a different level than the other 4 imo, just solid speed all around for offence. That's why if we can't have 5 I'd rather have no one take SJ. Then I'd be good with Anaheim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqualizard Posted February 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) Ok, what do you guys think of these rules: 8 guys, 4 As, 4 Bs B level picks from complete Classic list, A level pick from bottom 5 Each team plays the other team 2x (home and away), for 14 games total Aim for 7 games per week, so: season complete in 2 weeks No playoffs. Whoever has most wins, wins (If there is a tie, we then look at: GF, GA) As and Bs draft teams separately based on random draw Atomic and I (might be able to) tweak nhl94rocks.com to keep track of league stats, so even though it is a small, tight league we can still track stuff like nhl94online.com does. (It is always fun to see stats, right?) Edit: Added #6 Edit 2: Added this same ruleset to first post. Edited February 8, 2017 by aqualizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Depch Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 14 minutes ago, aqualizard said: Ok, what do you guys think of these rules: 8 guys, 4 As, 4 Bs B level picks from complete Classic list, A level pick from bottom 5 Each team plays the other team 2x (home and away), for 14 games total Aim for 7 games per week, so: season complete in 2 weeks No playoffs. Whoever has most wins, wins Atomic and I (might be able to) tweak nhl94rocks.com to keep track of league stats, so even though it is a small, tight league we can still track stuff like nhl94online.com does. (It is always fun to see stats, right?) Sounds good to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqualizard Posted February 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) Deleted to avoid confusion... Edited February 8, 2017 by aqualizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachMac Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 I'll play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqualizard Posted February 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) 21 hours ago, CoachMac said: I'll play Cool! It is hinged on us getting 4 A guys, but it looks promising... "A"s In: Depch Kingraph Icestorm FPB Smozoma "B"s In: Aqua Atomic Coach Jack&Jose * Needs official confirmation still (after reading rules)... Edit: Updated coaches. Edited February 8, 2017 by aqualizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 Yeah, I'm down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqualizard Posted February 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 2 hours ago, kingraph said: Yeah, I'm down. Cool! I amended the list just above you. Just need confirmation from the two As and a B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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