Graphic glitch question

[Matt55]

When I use the patch to add the ProSet logo to the scoreboard, my faceoff dots become a problem. Any idea why this happens?

[AdamCatalyst]

Yes.

Edited August 17, 2024 by AdamCatalyst

[AdamCatalyst]

Sorry, I couldn't resist. It's probably one of two potential problems:

1. You overwrote the graphics for the Face-Off dots with the Pro-Set graphics.

2. You changed the tiles being referenced for the Face-Off dots to the ones used by the Pro-Set graphics.

You say you used a "patch?" My guess is this is the problem. A patch can only do so much, and if there are other customizations afoot (or the wrong ROM is used) you can get unexpected / unwanted results.

If you want more help, post more info, like… uhhhhh, what ROM are you even talking about? what patch? does the Pro-Set logo look right on the Sideboards view? etc.

[Matt55]

Fair enough.

I don't do any coding, so it's more likely simply a wrong ROM, as you suggested.

The ROM is slapshot's '92 ROM.

The patch is from kingraph:

Everything else, including the sideboards view of the scoreboard (while on the menu screen), looks great.

[AdamCatalyst]

Ah, there ya go. You used a patch made for '94 on a '92 ROM. Since those two ROMs have some graphics moved around, that's why it isn't working as expected.

[Matt55]

It's a '94 ROM but based on the '92 season. Still, it's probably a mismatch.

[von Ozbourne]

I could probably dig through that for you. My initial thought is that the patch is simply writing the ProSet logo over the offset location where the modern ice faceoff dot was set to be. In theory, it could be fixed by changing the rink to use a different tile. I think it had two different faceoff dots. Maybe. if not, a different free tile could be commandeered as the new location of the faceoff dot and the rink tile code can be changed to use that instead.

If you want to send me the ROM I can take a look when I have time in the next couple of days. I'm kind of interested in seeing how the patch works anyway since the ROMs I'm using all have different Three-Star, Jumbotron logos going on and matching them up might be nice.

[Matt55]

Just so you know what you're looking at:

"MHL 92" (Matt's Hockey League) is slapshot's '92. I set a 3-line lineup by taking the players from NHLPA '93 (based on the '92 season) and translating their ratings into this NHL '94 ROM (also based on the '92 season).  Overall ratings are exactly as they were in NHLPA '93.  I haven't done the goalies yet.

Take a look - thanks!

92 MHL.bin

[von Ozbourne]

Had a few minutes to myself and luckily it was as I suspected. The patch just used the sprite locations of its original ROM, but didn't consider the tile order used with the modern rink markings. So those "L" ticks that determine where a skater is supposed to put his feet when taking a faceoff were the undoing. Even if you were using the older style rink markings. But it was just a matter of copying the tile numbers from the neutral zone faceoff dots and pasting them in place of the offence/defence zone circles and the ProSet logo is left alone.

Thankfully @AdamCatalyst made the bigger rink grid map so it was easy to track them down. This should be the rink you are looking for.

92 MHL V002.bin

[Matt55]

Hm...interesting. Thanks for figuring it out.

[BRCbruce]

@von Ozbourne i am having the exact problem with my rom. It is wboy 30 team rom. is there any chance you could look through and maybe fix the problem like you did for @Matt55. it would be greatly appreciated if you could. please and thank you.

NHL94 CRLatest3.bin

I've also just noticed looking closer that the hack also overwrote the backup goaltenders head sprite.

Edited April 16 by BRCbruce

[von Ozbourne]

Yeah, you have a couple weird things going on there. I can take a quick look to see what happened and how easy a fix it is.

I noticed that your Crown team is sporting some gin blossoms. Guess that was a fun side effect of needing red for the center ice logo eh.

[BRCbruce]

Yup, that and also red sticks. But that center ice logo looks great with it 😁 

It seems the tiles for the 3 star logo is in the place of the tiles for behind the bench area, and are being told to be used in 2 different spots. I'm not sure if it's possible to move the 3 star tiles elsewhere in the bin, then just copy the missing bench tiles from another rom?

Edited April 17 by BRCbruce

[von Ozbourne]

Hey @BRCbruce I think I figured it out? The patch seemed to have done a real number on the tile layout, but I was able to clean it up and combine a few redundant tiles to avoid messing with the three-star logo and get that back up goalie looking like a human again.

I also gave the away Crown team some red ...sticks. For consistency. Hope you don't mind.

NHL94 CRLatest3 v2.bin

Edited April 18 by von Ozbourne

[BRCbruce]

Yah I guess the hack was meant to be used on a fresh rom with the old rink that doesnt have the behind the rink tiles. Lesson learned 😁 Thank you soo much! Everything is looking great! 👌🏻 Very much appreciated. 😁

The red sticks and faces will become their signature now 😉 they'll match the penalty referees face 🙄

Thank you soo much! Everything is looking great! 👌🏻 Very much appreciated. 

[von Ozbourne]

17 hours ago, BRCbruce said:

The red sticks and faces will become their signature now 😉 they'll match the penalty referees face 🙄

Well at least that way when the refs make a bogus call, you can blame it on him getting a "little cross-eyed" during the game.

[BRCbruce]

@von Ozbourne so I came up with a work around that's a little easier on the eyes. I don't know why i didn't think of it sooner but i just changed the skate blades color to red then just edited the logo color.  Back to regular sticks and no more red faces 😉