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Hey everyone, I've been working on NHL 98 update to the rom. I don't really understand why 96, 97 and 98 are always ignored.  I personally love the season mode for these games. Anyways, I have updated all the ice rink logos, the screen select logos, I got rid of the all-stars, Europe, USA and Canada and replaced them with Vegas, Nashville, Winnepeg, and Seattle. I also replaced Phoenix with Utah. The rosters are updated as of yesterday but the hill I have to climb now is the player ratings on everyone. One thing I cannot figure out is how to change or update the team select ratings. Does anyone have an idea? It's not a big deal if I can't change them but it would be nice, I'm trying to make it as new looking as possible before posting the rom. the ratings I'm referring to is on the team select - even strength, power play, penalty killing, goaltending and overall.  

NHL 98 select menu.png

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Obviously not going to be that helpful, but I figured I'd weigh in for the dual purpose of saying you're not alone in appreciating '96-'98 for what they are. [although admittedly I do still prefer '94 & '95] Also I've tried digging into the ratings, and while I was able to find out a few things about how ratings are used, the numbers remain impenetrable.

Annoyingly they seem to be linked to the numbered order rather than a specific team, as it is possible to change the selection order of the teams, but that overall rating for the fifth team is always going to show up for the fifth team regardless of what team is in that slot. Also simulated season performance in '98, more so than '96 or '97, seems to be a separate thing and has no relation to the ranking of the teams or the ratings of the players on those teams.

It also doesn't seem to follow the same pattern as '93-'95 do, so that's no help. Eventually I had to give up and just took the piss out of the now meaningless numbers.
Screen shot from a '97 based mod, but you get the idea.
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Thank you Von, that makes me feel better. I have been digging in this only to find a dead end, glad it’s not just me. Screenshot looks awesome and a great idea to just change out the rating names instead. 

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7 hours ago, kooties8 said:

Thank you Von, that makes me feel better. I have been digging in this only to find a dead end, glad it’s not just me. Screenshot looks awesome and a great idea to just change out the rating names instead. 

Are you looking to change the player ratings, or the team ranks?

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each team rating is in order by title.

NHL 98
00016372 - EVEN STRENGTH
000163A6 - POWER PLAY
000163DA - PENALTY KILLING
0001640E - GOALTENDING
00016442 - OVERALL


NHL 97
00015F90 - EVEN STRENGTH
00015FC4 - POWER PLAY
00015FF8 - PENALTY KILLING
0001602C - GOALTENDING
00016060 - OVERALL

NHL-98-team-ratings.jpg

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Yeah i found that a few years ago. But never tested cause 95 got my attention lol

1 minute ago, slapshot67 said:

each team rating is in order by title.

NHL 98
00016372 - EVEN STRENGTH
000163A6 - POWER PLAY
000163DA - PENALTY KILLING
0001640E - GOALTENDING
00016442 - OVERALL


NHL 97
00015F90 - EVEN STRENGTH
00015FC4 - POWER PLAY
00015FF8 - PENALTY KILLING
0001602C - GOALTENDING
00016060 - OVERALL

NHL-98-team-ratings.jpg

 

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Well shucks.
I guess to your point @kooties8 I had done a series of mods and mentioned that I was trying to figure this out, but I suppose being based on '96-'98, it didn't garner as much interest. Or perhaps I should have taken your tact and posted a separate question. It actually annoys me that I had the right idea, but was searching for the ratings in the wrong listing order [looking vertically instead of horizontally I might call it]

I am still curious though if these numbers will have any relation to a team's performance in a simulated season mode.

Just to keep this in the same place, I was able to use slapshot's pattern to figure out where '96 keeps its team ranking data.

NHL 96
00012016 - EVEN STRENGTH
00012046 - POWER PLAY
00012076 - PENALTY KILLING
000120A6 - GOALTENDING
000120D6 - OVERALL

and the Swedish PAL port

Elitserien 96
0000FDF6 - EVEN STRENGTH
0000FE24 - POWER PLAY
0000FE52 - PENALTY KILLING
0000FE80 - GOALTENDING
0000FEAE - OVERALL

Edited by von Ozbourne
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Well I changed every rating on my 98 rom and it worked to perfection. I thought I would get stuck with the rating not changing the th or st but the program auto changed it with the numbers I added including 32nd. So from now on, just going to post a new topic instead of struggling a whole weekend to figure it out on my own. Thank you slapshot. 

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