swos Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 (edited) Alright here's the deal. I got accused of cheating and said I will be reported to Angryjay. All I can do is to the best of my ability to inform you what happened, to redeem my reputation. So I'll just put in here the whole conversation we had uncut and uncencored, the game video that we played, and the .krec save file of the game (It's a good thing I record all my games and I finally got to put that in use) We played the game with the default GDL Season 5 rom. swos94 (21:37:28): hi WagsTh (21:37:33): ok ip? swos94 (21:37:46): the way I can host your home games is that I make a custom rom so that our teams play in playoff mode swos94 (21:37:52): that way home/away is reversed swos94 (21:37:57): 82.128.187.199 swos94 (21:38:14): Ive done it succesfully with dozen of players ** The Game ** WagsTh (21:45:45): what the hell swos94 (21:45:50): yeah ? WagsTh (21:46:01): you paused it as i am going into shoot? swos94 (21:46:11): I think we have desynced then swos94 (21:46:16): it's 7-1 for me here WagsTh (21:46:21): wow hahahahah WagsTh (21:46:23): you are nuts WagsTh (21:46:32): well it desynched for me at 10-0 me WagsTh (21:46:34): WagsTh (21:46:47): how the f**k does your ip desynch? swos94 (21:46:53): that's odd swos94 (21:46:59): I saw you playing smart moves WagsTh (21:47:06): yeah something is fishy with you swos94 (21:47:27): you even changed your goalie after he had took too many in WagsTh (21:47:28): your desynch is fishy..your special rom is fishy swos94 (21:47:33): you even looked at instant replay swos94 (21:47:37): of a shot that didn't go in WagsTh (21:47:39): your game is fishy swos94 (21:47:42): I have all that on tape WagsTh (21:47:50): i think we have a cheater here swos94 (21:47:50): I record every single game WagsTh (21:47:52): see ya swos94 (21:47:56): later WagsTh (21:48:01): f**kin cheat swos94 (21:48:21): I can report that game as 7-1 for me WagsTh (21:48:25): um no WagsTh (21:48:38): you won't report the game as anything cause we didn't finish swos94 (21:48:53): ok let me just lay out my evidence let others decide WagsTh (21:48:57): ..and i am reporting your cheatin to angryjay swos94 (21:49:05): cool what ever swos94 (21:49:13): why do you think I cheat ? WagsTh (21:49:16): you can lay out evidence whatever you like.. doesn't make our game final swos94 (21:49:20): was I too good or something ? WagsTh (21:49:20): you f**king cheat WagsTh (21:49:30): yeah you are awesome when we desynch WagsTh (21:49:40): makes me seem like i am not even there! swos94 (21:49:44): you say it's 10-0 for you ? WagsTh (21:49:57): well that was a joke just like your 7-1 swos94 (21:50:00): can you give me a screenshot WagsTh (21:50:04): ^^ swos94 (21:50:07): pls WagsTh (21:50:15): ^^ swos94 (21:50:27): you cant provide it WagsTh (21:50:32): read above d**khead WagsTh (21:50:37): thats what ^^ means swos94 (21:50:41): ok swos94 (21:50:47): was just wondering what it means swos94 (21:50:59): well I dont have time for this kind of s**t WagsTh (21:51:01): i said 10-0 me was a joke.. just like your 7-1 screen shot swos94 (21:51:06): lets just not play if you don't like playing against me WagsTh (21:51:26): i dont' like playing against fishy players swos94 (21:51:34): I have more important things to do than to argue about nhl94 cheating swos94 (21:51:44): I'm fishy because I lead 7-1 ? WagsTh (21:51:45): seems like you want to end the convo pretty early WagsTh (21:51:51): 7-1 hahahahaha WagsTh (21:52:11): you are an awesome player when the other guy desynchs WagsTh (21:52:21): but like you said, you don't have time to argue that swos94 (21:52:27): I dont think there's any way I can convince you at this point so there's no point WagsTh (21:52:33): exactly swos94 (21:52:41): I can just lay out my evidence in nhl94.com forums and let others decide WagsTh (21:52:42): if you really need the win.. take it WagsTh (21:53:08): if i was winning a game then it desynchs i can lay out my evidence pretty well too.. doesn't make it right swos94 (21:53:16): the evidence will show you plaayed smart swos94 (21:53:19): you pulled goalie swos94 (21:53:23): and such WagsTh (21:53:32): i am not questioning that.. i am questioning the score you claim WagsTh (21:53:44): and the fact that you want to report it as a win swos94 (21:53:45): if it's not 7-1 it's 6-1 swos94 (21:53:53): because I just scored for no defense swos94 (21:53:56): that 7-1 WagsTh (21:54:14): well get your cheap win.. it suits the rest of your actions swos94 (21:54:32): ok I'll get my win because I see no cheap in that in any way swos94 (21:54:36): and have a good day WagsTh (21:54:39): you are the only guy i know who has lag and desynch on your own ip swos94 (21:54:53): I live in Finland, duh WagsTh (21:54:55): and then you have a "special rom" swos94 (21:54:58): games are laggy against me WagsTh (21:55:01): well thats your problem swos94 (21:55:02): I live in Europe WagsTh (21:55:07): again, your problem WagsTh (21:55:10): not mine swos94 (21:55:31): "special rom" is for the purposes that wouldn't have to play in american servers swos94 (21:55:35): because that would be unequal WagsTh (21:55:37): suuuuure WagsTh (21:55:43): again, your problem swos94 (21:55:46): I would just hand my opponent free win WagsTh (21:55:49): i prefer not to play our WagsTh (21:55:51): you swos94 (21:55:56): cool lets not WagsTh (21:56:01): enjoy finland swos94 (21:56:36): ok regardless of you giving me default win I will post this conversation along with the game tape to nhl94.com forums swos94 (21:56:47): so others can decide and have all the info available WagsTh (21:56:49): do what you like swos94 (21:56:52): cool WagsTh (21:56:56): enjoy finland swos94 (21:57:10): later man WagsTh signed off at 21:57:23. wagsth is offline and will receive your IMs when signing back in. swos94 (21:57:35): I hope we're in some kind of agreement later WagsTh is unable to receive offline IMs. to wagsth's defense I have to say my games against Carse after this also desynced, and I can only think and hope it's because I wasn't playing from my apartment where I normally do. 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thegr8199 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 After watching the video, its obvious no desynching took place until the start of the 3rd. So swos did have a 6-1 lead after two. Now, what does this say about Wags claiming he was up 10-0(Im sure he was joking), is obviously not true. I think the only solution here is for you guys to play one more period and Game Stitch it. If an agreement cant be made, I think a 6-1 win after two periods for swos should be posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaftman Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 (edited) Its clear wags was in game while it was 5-0 cause he changed his goalie at the end of the period. anything after that is arguable. so just pick up where you left off, 5-0 second period. Or 5-1 second period since wags will probably complain. Edit - Thegreat's solution is even better if you aprove of his analysis Edited November 9, 2008 by shaftman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickenest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 If I had to pick a spot at which it looks like the desync occurs it's right before the second period ends, so when swos is leading 6-1. Also, swos, we need to teach you about VirtualDub and x264. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HABS Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 LOL just another reason why this guy needs to be blacklisted from all leagues for life. I dread playing him because you know if something like a desync happens there will be a huge despute. He aint honest. Theres always some issue that comes up when you gota play him. And cman, UP 10-0 LMAO...if your up 10-0 you should know something is wrong, clearly you werent tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryjay93 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 From what i can tell, its rather obvious the game is 6-1, its indisputable, the evidence clearly depicts that fact. Obviously, there are two other guys in charge aside from me, but this is my feeling about the situation and if donch and ice disagree, then we can go with what they decide. But i say the game ends 7-1, there is no playing out of the 3rd period, wags behavior was way out of line and to avoid further problems cropping up, id rather we just avoid playing that last period since the game was easily in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8199 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 From what i can tell, its rather obvious the game is 6-1, its indisputable, the evidence clearly depicts that fact. Obviously, there are two other guys in charge aside from me, but this is my feeling about the situation and if donch and ice disagree, then we can go with what they decide. But i say the game ends 7-1, there is no playing out of the 3rd period, wags behavior was way out of line and to avoid further problems cropping up, id rather we just avoid playing that last period since the game was easily in hand. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceStorm70 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 I agree the game must've desynched after 7-1. If Wags doesn't want to play 3rd period thats fine, Swos can get the win based on a 7-1 final. Wags, you gotta man up bro and accept the fact you got your tail whipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carse Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 ya swos and I played after this and we got desynched like 3 times... it is obvious as hell that this game was 6-1 when the desynch happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wags13 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 This issue was never about "getting my tail whipped".. i am quite good at that.. the issue I take is with when the desynch happened...and swos' attempt to report the game as final. Swos also happens to have a "special rom" that he likes everyone to play with so that he can host on his P2P IP.. i wonder if the rom is league approved? I'd prefer to not play swos anymore. Oh by the way- Habs- blow me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaftman Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Anyone can check the rom to make sure its legit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Russian Rocket Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 That rom is totally legit i say, Swos whooped me on the floor when he did it with me, but there was no cheating at all, he's not changing the stats or s**t, btw can we check if Wags is legit? His behaviour is way worst then manipulating the rom in any way (if that's the case...) Wags that ''misjudgement'' of Swos calling a 7-1 final on you is maybe caused by the fact that you are a... lethal douche in the conversation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebe_The_Legend Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Swos is one of the most stand-up, classy guys on this site. I agree it was at least 6-1 when they were decynked. Not only is swos' rom legit, its genius, and he went to alot of work to help us with the lag that comes with him living is FINLAND.. Wags stop crying and looking for cheaters, its not cheating is beating your a*s, cause swos owns you. Like Ice said man up, and accept it when u get your a*s handed to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halifax Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 I think a resolution to the game has already been made in this thread....everything else posted just leads to more trashing the forums. TC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryjay93 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 I'd prefer to not play swos anymore. If this is the case, you forfeit both games against swos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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