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  1. its as simple as this, we disagree, obviously nothing we say to each other will persuede the other to change sides. i respect your opinion and i want you to keep voicing it, but on the flip side i will likely be there voicing mine as well. i hope we dont go to the format you suggest and i encourage you to pick the best team you can. i look forward to getting spanked game in and game out.

    What about letting us pick any team we want? Like 2 detroits? How do you feel about that?

    That solves the problem of the league being "too bland", and at the same time, makes it totally fair. I dont see any flaw in it.

  2. Yes, the league is fine. I agree 100%. One player getting his ass handed to him and making a big stink about it is certainly not going to change the league into something ridiculous.

    Yeah losing every game by 1 goal with a scrub team vs. an all star team "is getting my ass handed to me".

    What exactly have you won? Oh yeh, same as me, jack, and s**t.

    And letting players pick any team they want is "ridiculous"? Why? Too fair for you? Do you like to cheat?

  3. everyone with an equal team just seems mundane. like addisonbr said 400 det vs. det games does not sound like fun at all. You saying that working with the players on that team will fit to our strengths is a kanard. All teams have weaknesses and its very likely those weaknesses will affect some of the players. So one team ,is just not a solution due to that fact alone. I can see the reasoning you have, and while the reasoning may be sound from your view, i just disagree. Life is all about sometimes getting the short end of the straw, and working with what you get is exactly what hockey is. Just because the St. Louis Blues are filled with bums, they arent crying foul and saying everyone must have equal caliber players, they make do with what they have and in some cases like the 2003 minnesotta wild (i believe) made the playoffs with a team full of bums. also teams like the new york rangers who filled their team with stars stunk and missed the playoffs for 7 years i believe. Being successful is all about devising a game plan, playing to your strengths, and taking advantage of opponents weaknesses. It may not always be possible to do those things every game, it is not impossible. Washington is capable of beating Pittsburgh, by no means am i taking a stab at your ability to play the game, but the fact is you played 3 real close games that just didnt come out in your favor, a bounce here or there could have changed the game, not the fact that you have the same team as him would neccessarily change anything.

    What you say is true, all teams have weaknesses, and some players may not be "quite" as good with, lets say, detroit, as they would be with edmonton.

    BUT, while not perfect, that system is BY FAR more fair, imo, than having a traveling all star team vs. a team with nobody scrubs. Everyone has the same team, BUT you can still alter your lines anyway you wish. And my idea is to switch the set team every year so noone has a "continued advantage".

    You dont seem to be a fan of having one set team. Why not then, at the very least, allow players to pick whatever team they want? If there are 3 edmontons, so be it. GIVE EVERYONE A FAIR SHAKE and let them pick the team they feel they are best with. And if they lose, noone to blame but themselves, either for picking the wrong team, or just playing like s**t.

    I admit, I was stupid. I picked Washington out of modesty. I wont make that mistake again.

  4. Here's another facet of my argument:

    The entire regular season, as is constructed right now, is a complete and TOTAL waste of time, space, and energy.

    EXAMPLE: My record: 29-10

    TEAM I GOT SWEPT BY RECORD: 15-25

    Is there something wrong with this picture?

    I mean COME ON. You work your butt off the regular season, beating all different types of players, and styles, and lose because you happen to face an all-star team?

    See, if you had a league with everyone on equal footing, this crap doesnt happen, and the regular season HAS MEANING.

    Well, whatever. I guess I'm just "whining". Congrats to pitt and kgboy once again.

  5. personally im in favor of a draft. we throw everybody in the pool and the order is random. then teams are just picked from there. obviously those lucky enough to be at the top will get the best teams. its fair because it gives everyone an equal shot to get the team they want. having teams with different abilities is part of hockey and part of life.

    That really doesnt solve much imo. Some players will get screwed based on who gets the tallest straw?

    The only solution is to have equal teams.

  6. :rolleyes::lol::lol:

    And here we go again... "boo hoo I lost because my team sucks, not possibly because I wasn't up the playing ability of my opponent!"

    You are truly an idiot.

    Yes my opponent had absolutely no advantage with Mario Lemeuix and Kevin Stevens vs a bunch of scrubs.

    I dont give a s**t if you think I'm whining. I really dont care. I say what needs to be said, and I speak the truth. If you take offense to the truth, and call it "whining", thats your problem. The "classy" thing for me to do would be to congratulate kgboy. I did that, numerous times, which you fail to mention (reading problems again on your part). I am also not going to sit here and say "gee golly, he had an all star team, but that didnt matter! He was just better!", because you and I both know thats a bunch of bull.

    And once again, if you actually read my posts you see that I blame myself for losing, but adding that with an even playing field I probably wouldnt have.

    Now quit being a flamer. This is why noone can stand you dude.

  7. 45+ posts in this topic in just a few hours...might be a record for this site!

    Heres the 47th post: I just got swept. :rolleyes:

    Wont happen again next season, I promise you that. Theres going to be hell to pay for this.

    I am no longer going to be picking sub par teams out of respect. This year I had first pick and wound up with Washington. That wont happen next season.

    If the system wont change, I will. If you cant beat em, join em. Lemeuix had 5 goals again the last game. Completely unstopable. f**k that s**t. Next year I'M going to be the one running up the score with superstar players. Enough of this crap.

    I advise to anyone reading this to NOT be modest anymore, and pick the highest rated team you can get your hands on. This has taught me that nice guys finish last. I made a mistake, and have learned. CARSE you in particular. You made the same mistake I made. You're a top tier player and picked Florida out of respect. Dont f**kin bother man, it aint worth it. Pick a good team next season. Youre one of the better players in the league, dont be a nice guy next season. We both tried to be nice and got reamed in the rear for doing it.

  8. Pittsburgh: not a top 10 team

    and i'm from Pittsburgh, and Mario Lemieux is the next best thing to Jesus.... but unfortunately some cruel stroke of fate made teams like Detroit, Calgary, and Vancouver better suited for domination.

    With line changes on, mabye not.

    With line changes off, they are a top 5 team, easy. No doubt.

    Calgary is so highly rated because someone from the organization worked on the ratings I believe.

  9. cross, I think youre missing the bottom line.

    there are ALOT of players in this game that can steal it all on their own.

    ive done it with TBs Brian Bradley.

    Key word is "steal".

    Shouldnt have to "steal" it.

    For example, Kgman will probably win with Hartford this year. Hartford is not very good, but can we really say he "stole" it? No, because his talent is far above anyone else's.

    I'm interested in a league with equal playing ground, thats why I'm looking into the CSHL with those guys with the 92 rom. They have the system down perfect in my opinion:

    10 minute periods (if you fall behind you still have a chance to win, and the person who plays the best game will always win).

    Same team (League is about player abilities not team abilities).

    There's really no way to tell who "steals" championships here, because of the huge disparity among the teams. If you have a league with equal footing, lesser players can TRULY steal championships and we'd know they stole it. Players can improve their abilities over the course of time, and upsets can happen in the playoffs. Now that'd be fun.

    But hey I get what youre saying. I'm not missing the point, I just dont agree with the point.

    And lets say the random team is Detroit. Cant say "that team doesnt fit my style" because you can always adjust your lines. You can put slow players in, OR you can match up the same lines. Its a fair system.

    But I realize this place is never going to do any of that, and I dont blame Evan. The way it is, is what the majority seem to want. But I believe if the league did change to a fair system of teams, eventually everyone would realize how much better it would be. But its hard once you start out a league one way, to change it. People are adverse to change, even if that change is for the better.

  10. I truly believe that the population that wants an entire league to play with one team is vast minority.... albeit a vocal one.

    Like it has been said before, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

    This league is working excellent as it is, and all that is being done to it is minor improvements and superficial "fluff", like stat tracking and the bit, which definately enhances the experience.

    There seems to be a lot of guys starting up their own leagues with different philosophies (offsides, drafted teams, etc.) Perhaps you are interested in starting your own, or maybe there is someone else interested in starting a league to the constraints of one team. I know I would be interested in joining, I love playing this game no matter what the settings.

    Beyond that.... Lemieux a superstar? I know he is rated 99, but he is definately not the best player in NHL94, and maybe not even top 5. I am certain I can get a lot of backup on that.

    -Yes, a good defense can stop him. Play kgman, marc, tickenest, clockwise, gr8199, ......... list goes on and on

    How do you feel about 92? You ever play that?

    There are these guys who run a "CSHL" league and they want to go online. They use the 92 rom though.

    And as far as KGMAN being able to beat pitt I have no doubt. KGMAN could beat pitt with Ottawa. There are always exceptions to the rule, but my thing is, you shouldnt have to be a super gifted player to compete in this league. Its only my opinion, thats all. I respect yours.

    I am not trying to say I'm the best player at all and lost because pitt played me. I'm just using this as an example to demonstrate my opinion.

    I agree with you on the point, that a 1 team league is a minority as far as people wanting it. But its not how I feel. I feel a 1 man team is the most fair way to determine who is the best player, and I dont think anyone can offer any valid reason to suggest otherwise.

  11. We can go back and forth all night on this.

    Lets leave it at this: I feel everyone should be on equal footing, and the league should be based on player talents, not team talents.

    We will never know who the best player is with such disparity amonst the teams. If you want to say I could beat Pittsburgh with Washington, OK, fine. It'd take much more effort on my part, but its possible. What about the Ottawa's? The Anaheim's? Do they have a chance? The answer is no.

    I've made my point. That's all. Agree or disagree and leave it at that.

  12. pick a better team then, quit whining. you think we should change the entire way the league works because you got beat in one game?

    I'm only offering my opinion. If you bothered to read my post, I already said I dont expect anyone to change the league based on my opinion. I ALSO said I didnt post this just because of my 1 loss. Can you read?

    NEWSFLASH: I could have picked a better team, but didnt. I actually have integrity. If I pick Chicago I dont feel its fair someone else cant. But now, its getting a bit old, so I just might take your suggestion.

    And coming from the biggest whiner on this board, I find your comments ironic. Sorry, tried to be nice to you. Now I gotta say it like it is. I am seeing why everyone in the snes league hates you lately. Dont bother replying to this. If you cant hold a civil conversation, dont participate.

  13. Well, here's the paradox.

    I've never had more FUN playing this game than when I played in college, 2-4 hours a day, every day, and twice on Sunday.

    When we did tournaments, we never felt that we needed to pick identical teams. It's more fun to lay out Gretzky with Oates than it is to lay out Gretzky with... er, Gretzky.

    In fact, if someone had suggested it as the only way to really tell who was "the best", I think the other three of us would have just stared at him blankly for a few seconds before going back to having fun.

    So I guess if we wanted to unequivocally try to establish the most unbiased league champion possible, we could draw a team out of a hat and then the whole league would play as that team for the regular season and the playoffs, and at the end we'd have a clean claim for the title.

    But it doesn't sound very fun, so I don't know that I'd do it, you know?

    I totally get your point.

    But by the same token, I think the league should be about the players ability, not the teams.

    My compromise is this: Every year, switch the "main" team, to keep things fresh. One seaon Edmontn, the next, Pittsburgh, etc. etc.

  14. This whole thread is pretty ridiculous. Saying the system is flawed because you lost a game is just silly.

    I've felt this way a long time. The game just prompted me to say it.

    You may think its fair that some players have all star teams while others dont, and the players that dont "should just adjust and live with it". I say, hogwash. Shouldnt be like that. Equal ground for all! :P

  15. Look, i disagree with all of this. Complaining that someone has an all-star player is an argument that may very well never stop. Ok, so lets say we take out Lemieux, Roenick, Selanne, what have you. Then the next tier of best players will dominate a league in this theory and then those players like Gilmour, Mogilny, Yzerman, will all be eliminated. Continuing down that slipper slope will bring us down to guys like Brian Bradley because he just domiantes Guy Hebert too easily. All i can say is suck it up, Washington has a good defense in Iafrate and Hatcher and they have some speed with Bondra and scoring ability in Bondra and Ridley. A sound defense can stop Lemieux and Jagr. Limit skating room, check better, hold, hook, dump the puck, play a different style, whatever needs to be done.

    Complaining on the forum after getting hit up for ONE loss is no way to get any sort of respect. You get respect by playing the games and finding ways to win, not by saying you'll pick Roenick next season on purpose or whoever else youd want. Some guys get lucky with a good team, but all you can do is work with what you have and adjust to the opponent, everyone can be stopped or else they would be undefeated.

    Thats why I said a league with one team would be ideal. Mabye one season it'd be Edmonton, the next Detroit, just to keep things fresh. OR do the opposite of what you said. Dont ban teams, OPEN UP EVERY team so EVERYONE has an EQUAL chance. Although I like the first idea better (one team per year).

    It wont happen but thats how it really should be. Telling me to improve my defense is nice and it sounds good, but when an all star gets hot, the best d in the world isnt going to stop him. Could I have played better? Sure. I dont deny that. But youre not going to tell me if I adjusted my D that would solve everything. My record is 29-10 this season, but there is only so much you and your d can do when you face a team of all star calibur.

    When you play an all star team, they are going to score goals, no matter what your d does. The only fair way to balance that out is if player b has an all star team as well. Thats all I'm saying.

    I dont really know why voicing my opinion is not going to earn me respect. I suppose the title of the thread was flaming like so I apologize for that, but I stand by how I feel on this subject.

    If I lose 8-4 and we both have the same teams, then tell me to work on my defense all you want. But when I'm using a far inferior team vs all stars the point is a bit moot. Its like telling an AHL team to work on their defense when they lose to Edmonton circa 1988. There are limitations when you are handicapped.

    And Ridley and Bondra are nice little players but comparing them to Lemeuix is insane. :P

    I am not making excuses. I am far from the best player in this league. I'm just saying itd be nice to see how good I really am under 100% fair circumstances. Why should I have to bust my hump on defense overcompensating while player b with the all star team relaxes? Sure, I might win, but I'd literally have to leave it all on the table. Is that fair? No, I dont think it is.

    I respect your opinion, and I wish you'd respect mine. Just because you disagree, I dont feel you should say I havent earned respect.

  16. dude 1 player doesn't beat u, if they do then u need to practice your defense...i love pitt because lemieux is my favorite player and my friends actually banned them for me before but none of them would win with them...some people find a team they are good with ie look at quebec in the snes league, they guy is just a solid player, i actually did better with the rangers last year....so i dont think u can say 1 player can beat u, would be more like kgboy beat u using 1 player that u could not stop and lemieux will def go down, he is elusive but does not have near the speed of other top players so he is pretty easy to hit...

    All I'm saying is we will never know who is truly the best player when one player has an all star team and the other has an average team.

    I think your argument works ok in the regular season. The problem is, in the playoffs, players "jack up" their level of play.

    My defense is fine. My record is solid. This is more a case of losing to an all star team controlled by a good player. When an all star player gets hot, the best defense in the world is not going to stop him. Thats why I say the system should change. Then we'd know who the best really is.

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