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With the trade break over, I present my recap of some of the more exciting parts.
Firstly, there were a total of 19 trades involving 11 teams.
LA - 12 Trades (-1 Draft Pick)
BUF - 11 Trades
TOR - 6 Trades (+3 Draft Picks)
MTL - 2 Trades (-1 Draft Pick)
SJ - 2 Trades
BOS - 1 Trade (-1 Draft Pick)
CHI - 1 Trade
DET - 1 Trade
HFD - 1 Trade
VAN - 1 Trade
The 5 teams that did not make any trades were DAL, EDM, PIT, STL, WIN.
Top 3 Trades
1.LA trades Jeremy Roenick to VAN for Alexander Mogilny
Vancouver gets the best forward there is to compliment Vancouvers already potent offense led by Selanne.
BUF trades Esa Tikkanen, Mike Vernon, and it's draft pick to TOR for Jeremy Roenick and Andy Moog.
Toronto clears up a lot of cap space and aquires another draft pick, bringing it's total up to 4 (or 1/4th of all picks) for next seasons Rookie Draft.
3.LA trades Dino Ciccarelli to SJ for Mats Sundin
Los Angelos needed to clear up some cap space and San Jose took advantage of it, getting a top caliber sniper
Best Trading
XxdeathsbloodxX sticks out in my mind. With his shot at making playoffs not looking good, he got right to building for next season. He started with getting rid of Roenick, who while arguably the best player, also had a ridiculously high 22 mil contract. He finished off by having a whoping 27 million to spend next year on Free Agents (For comparasion, the next highest budget available next season is Chicago with 12.5 million), and 4 draft picks for use in the rookie draft, which at a rough estimate on where the standings end up puts him at a 26% chance of getting first pick. Though his team right now isn't all that frightening, expect next season to be a washington-esque turnaround.
As for how the trading actually went, I thought it went pretty smoothly. Some more regulations (such as a limit on the number of trades you can make: the hokkee rule) could be added but other than that it worked out well. Being the first mid-season trading period in any league, I wasn't hoping for perfection, but it went good.
Though i'm sure AngryJay will disagree with that (when a team you're likely to face in playoffs now has Roenick and Selanne on it, can you blame him?)
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As far as next season i'm not looking at expansion just yet. I'll put you on the waiting list and let you know.
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I'll be working on getting all these trades done up, confirmed, and in the DB later today.
As for the Dino-Sundin trade, I don't see much of a problem there.
Dino is on a 8.5 mil, one year contract. Sundin is on a 5 million, 2 year contract.
First, the stats:
Player Sundin Dino
Weight 7 5
Agility 4 5
Speed 4 4
ShP 4 5
ShotA 4 5
Pass 4 4
Dino is clearly the better player, although not by much. The big thing here has to do with the contracts. While one team is receiving Dino for ONLY the rest of this season/playoffs, the other team is getting a solid player for next season at a relatively small 5 mil contract.
Remember to look at a contract length and salary before you deem a trade is unfair.
Also any trades after this post don't count, the deadline has passed.
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oya kariya and forsberg arent on this list
I don't see why they would be. They both made their debut in 1994-95 season, so they'd be in 96.
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continue your trading, and also i've decided to be nice. If you still have games not played that were supposed be played on wednesday before the trade break started, you're in luck. I'm giving you the weekend to play them and get them uploaded before I start making changes to the DB and ROM. Monday is the end date for trading as well as those games.
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I'm suprised ANYBODY wanted that 22 mil salary.
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I'll take Toronto
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Just to clarify guys, the rookie draft is a one round event. Any rookies that aren't drafted just go to FA.
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I will sell my soul to aquire Sundin from you. Talk to me ASAP.
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You can start making the trades. They won't take effect until after the break is over. I just wanted to kick start it before I had to leave tonight. There are still some games that are on the schedule that aren't played, as i've said before, today is the deadline and you have until tonight to finish playing them.
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In a totally unexpected move, hokkee makes the first trade of the season.
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But what is the primary goal?
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LA trades F Brett Hull to HFD for F Peter Bondra
LA trades F Peter Bondra to MTL for F Mark Recchi
LA trades Brian Leetch and Kirk Muller to TOR for Matt Schneider and Mats Sundin
TOR trades Valeri Kamensky to QUE for Neil Broten
BUF trades Esa Tikkanen, Mike Vernon, and it's draft pick to TOR for Jeremy Roenick and Andy Moog.
BUF trades Jeremy Roenick and John Cullen to LA for Mats Sundin, Mark Recchi, and it's draft pick
BUF trades Mats Sundin for to SJ for Joe Juneau
LA trades Jeff Brown and Tom Pederson to BUF for Petr Svboda and Brent Thompson
LA trades Jeremy Roenick to VAN for Alexander Mogilny
BUF trades Chris Terreri and Dmitri Kristich to TOR for Joe Murphy and Mike Vernon
BUF trades Mark Recchi, Joe Juneau, Jeff Brown and Andy Moog to L.A for Alex Mogilny, Joe Cullen, Matt Schnieder and John Blue
BUF trades Gary Roberts to DET for Robert Reichel
BUF trades Robert Reichel and Matt Schnider to L.A for Mark Recchi And Brent Thompson
BUF trades Tom Pederson To L.A for Jeff Brown
BOS trades Nikolai Borshevsky and it's Draft Pick to TOR for Esa Tikkanen
MTL trades Tommy Soderstrom, Mark Howe, Ulf Dahlen and it's draft pick to TOR for Jon Casey, Tommy Sjodin and Stephane Richer.
LA trades Joe Juneau , Robert Reichel and Matt Schneider to CHI for Dino Ciccarelli, Chris Chelios and Tony Granato.
LA trades Dino Ciccarelli to SJ for Mats Sundin
LA trades Chris Chelios and Mats Sundin to BUF for Alex Mogilny and Brent Thompson
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If you and a coach complete a trade, one of you is to post the trade in this topic.
ex) TOR trades F Jeremy Roenick to VAN for F Teemu Selanne
The other coach is to quote the original post and confirm the trade.
A trade will be rejected if it breaks the 6F/4D/2G rule or is deemed too unbalanced.
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After some discussion and thought, i've decided to go ahead with the trade break. There is one small aesthetic issue with the trading; on OLD boxscores, on the player stats section, the player that you traded away will not show up on it anymore. You can still easily tell how many points he had in the game as he will still be in the scoring summary, unfortunately with the way this DB is coded only players on a team can show up on that team's boxscore player stats. Hopefully next season the DB will be upgraded and there will be no problem anymore.
However, because this is such a small problem i've been convinced to go ahead with it. Something I realized while testing out trading, is that luckily the DB handles trades pretty well. If two teams have a different number of games played and you trade players between them, the players won't suddenly have more or less Games Played than they should. There are 15 games left on the schedule. GET THEM PLAYED BEFORE TONIGHT. DNPs will be handed out for games not played before I leave tonight
The trade break will begin tonight and end on the 16th, Monday. Originally I was going to have it go for a little over a week, but I realized theres no need for such a long period. The weekend is plenty of time to make any neccesary moves that you have to.
Now let's recap how trading will work.
You can trade players OR your ONE draft pick for the Rookie Draft next season.
I'm gonna jump into explaining the rookie draft quickly. Every season theres a Rookie Draft for the new players that joined the league in the corresponding NHL season. Example, NHL 94 was made before the 1993-94 season. Therefore none of NHLers that made their debut in 1993-94 are in NHL 94. So for season 2, all those players will be added, and so on and so forth every season. The Rookies for Season 2 are:
Mariusz CzerkawskiChris Osgood
Darren McCarty
Greg Johnson
Jason Arnott
Kirk Maltby
Rob Niedermayer
Chris Pronger
Donald Brashear
Jason Smith
Martin Brodeur
Zigmund Palffy
Mattias Norstrom
Todd Marchant
Alexandre Daigle
Alexei Yashin
Pavol Demitra
Mikael Renberg
Markus Naslund
Jocelyn Thibault
Ian Laperriere
Chris Gratton
Yanic Perreault
Mike Peca
Jason Allison
The draft is a one round event. All 16 coaches will have one pick, and the order of the picks with be a half-random half-standings based system, sort of like the NBA Draft Lottery. Coaches with a lower place in the standings will have a better chance of getting the #1 pick, but anybody technically could end up with it, but the odds of say, AngryJay getting a high pick are not good. Any players not picked in the draft just go into free agency. The Rookie's ratings will be pulled from NHL 95 like every other player.
Moving on about the trading, one rule is that you ALWAYS have to have the 6F/4D/2G roster. So a trade such as:
Jeremy Roenick for Draft Pick
Does not work. As the team trading Roenick away now has 5F/4D/2G. What must be done is:
Jeremy Roenick for Draft Pick and Tony Twist (AKA a scrub)
So now the roster is 6F/4D/2G still, and trading a scrub away is basically like sending a bag of pucks to the other team anyways; you aren't losing anything.
Secondly, remember how contracts play in to trading. If you are aquiring a player with a one year contract, there is no problem. You do not have to pay anything, and the player goes into Free Agency after the playoffs
However, if you are aquiring a player with a multi-year contract, it gets a bit more complicated. You still do not have to pay for the season that you aquired the player in. However, next season you pay the player's contract. So keep that in mind that you want to end up under the cap for next season. This shouldn't cause too many problems, just check your rosters and contract lengths.
The last thing is that any trades deemed to be clearly unbalanced will not be allowed to happen. You can't trade Kelly Hrudley for Teemu Selanne. Draft Picks can end up being superstars so Roenick for a Draft Pick isn't all THAT unbalanced, but again, it depends.
That's all I have to say on the subject. You can start trading immediately.
If you and another coach agree on a trade, head over to the "Completed Trades" topic.
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Sorry, should have clarified. The draft picks I speak of are for the rookie draft. This years crop of rookies is:
Mariusz Czerkawski
Chris Osgood
Darren McCarty
Greg Johnson
Jason Arnott
Kirk Maltby
Rob Niedermayer
Chris Pronger
Donald Brashear
Jason Smith
Martin Brodeur
Zigmund Palffy
Mattias Norstrom
Todd Marchant
Alexandre Daigle
Alexei Yashin
Pavol Demitra
Mikael Renberg
Markus Naslund
Jocelyn Thibault
Ian Laperriere
Chris Gratton
Yanic Perreault
Mike Peca
Jason Allison
If you forget, the rookie draft is a one round event, all teams get to draft one rookie and sign him for a decently low cash amount.
Go for Alexander Daigle, I hear he was first pick overall.
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Remember that you don't pay the players contract when you aquire him in a trade, not until next season.
Draft picks can be traded, but remember everybody needs that 6/4/2 roster, so you'll have to throw in a scrub in some cases.
And very uneven trades will be rejected (Terry Yake for Jeremy Roenick). However Roenick for a draft pick and some scrub is not all that uneven.
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I talked to smoz as well Sun. He told me he didn't know how it would work and it might take some work-arounds to have it work nicely. So I decided to try and see if I could make it work. As it is right now, trades WILL work, but here are the problems I have:
On older boxscores, firstly I had the issue where on the scoring summary it would look wonky; having the NEW player ( the one the coach aquired in a trade) be shown getting the assist/goal for a team he wasn't on at the time. This was a quick fix, I just created a new player in the DB with the same name as the old player. It's basically a placeholder just to make the scroing summary on the boxscore look right.
So that's resolved. The records I thought would cause an issue, but once I fixed the above issue, the records still work correctly.
The one last issue (that I can see, i'm checking to make sure nothing else gets messed up) is that the player that you traded will no longer show up on player stats section on older boxscores. Very important to undestand that this is a purely visual thing. The traded player won't lose any stats, he will still be on the scoring summary, but he won't be on the player stats section.
You can still tell how many points that player got in the game by looking at the scoring summary.
I don't think I can get a workaround for this. It's just how the DB is coded.
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Well, this is a happy sight. Everybody is past the mark and a lot of you are done all your games. Great stuff guys, no replacements have to be made. So heres the deal with the deadline.
I worked on trades mid-season for awhile. I do have them working with this DB, but the issue is there's minor problems associated with it. None are huge problems that couldn't be ignored, but at the same time after this seasons start I want something to be perfectly ready with no errors before I add it into the league.
I'm going to work on this. If I can't get it working great, I don't want to have it. On the bright side, that means more games are released. Hokkee, rejoice.
Secondly, Wednesday is the final deadline for the first part of the regular season. Note that it's possible that any games not played might not actually result in DNPs. I think I can work this out in the trading, then you can just play said games later.
So by Wednesday i'll either:
A - Have the trading sorted out and the break will begin immediately.
B - Not have the trading working as perfectly as I want it to be and then the rest of the games will be released.
Thanks to all for the effort put in, playoffs are extremely close now.
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It's June 9th fellas, you still have until the end of today. Thankfully it seems most of you got the messege and nearly everybody met the 25 game mark and 10 of you hit the 30 game mark.
Sebe - 24 games completed.
Voc - 23 games completed.
You two have 4 games agaisnt eachother. Play those and you're both over the mark. Tonight, if you please. At the very, very least come talk to me. I can't cut much more slack here, I want to finish up the regular season.
Also, Chrisduda, you're past the deadline but I haven't seen you in a long while, where'd you go?
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This one time I beat AJ in the playoffs.
That was the only time.
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AIM: TessLog
Quebec or Toronto
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I personally think hokkee should keep up the drinking. Cmon, don't tell me you DON'T find the drunken rants hilarious.
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I'd just like to point out NHL 94 2008 ROM's predictions, which has already went 2 for 2 in the playoffs for predicting winners.
GAME 1 PIT
GAME 2 DET
GAME 3 DET
GAME 4 PIT
GAME 5 DET
GAME 6 DET
Although it went an abysmal 2 for 6 on who actually won which game, it was bang on for the number of games and eventual stanley cup champion. Clearly, it is an accurate prediction tool, now having gone 3 for 3.
Anyways, I was standing up until the end of the game after the Pens brought it to a 1 goal a game. I actually thought Hossa(?) poked it into the net on that last buzzer beater flick, and was thinking it was gonna go to video review. What a finish, congrats to the Wings.
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I might have to jump into this. Being a defensive player who uses manual goalie so much you'd think I always have Hrudley in net the beefed up D and goalies sounds great. Considering I don't want to stick around in my own league (it bothers me to be a commish and coach in the same league), no conflict.
Impressive- Gens Dynasty League
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A very active cast of coaches coupled with quick replacements to those who went missing worked out very well in terms of quickness.
Although I don't agree with some of the replacements that were made, as Wags said, results and results.