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I'd also like a test game.
AIM: DOCNABX85
I'm free after 6pm most nights.
Hey bud, I can play you tonight. I won't be in the leagues for another year due to college, but I can confirm your connection and pass your confirmation status on to the league officials
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Glad you like them Jeff!
We should play against each other online sometime man. It'd be an honor to take a whipping from you as your talents in your videos indicate
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Considering Bourque is one of only 3 players with a 5/5 shot power/accuracy rating, this is really not surprising
Roenick and Ciccarelli are the other two.
That's the odd thing for me, I can't score 3-5 slapshot goals per game with Roenick and Ciccarelli despite their shot ratings
It could be because they are right handed and maybe I gravitate more naturally to left handed shooters with my slapshot style. However, if someone posts up an SNES NHL 94 video where they can score 3 or more slapshot goals in a 5 min, no offside game against the cpu, I will gladly admit that my theories about Ray Bourque's "hidden" ability are not correct
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Both c4outlaws and I score a lot of slapshot goals. It's not that rare and you don't need Bourque to score many. I have recorded many zmv's with different players scoring slapshot goals. I will edit them together sometime.
Shot Power seem to be the key. Good accuracy is preferred but the power is more important.
I've scored a lot of slappers with Hull, Chiasson, Blake, Jeff Brown and even Modano (crap accuracy but high power).
Of course the technique is the most important thing. I've even scored slappers from the blue line with players that have both crap accuracy and power. Looks really funny.
Usually the puck goes in when the goalie is doing that "dog move", lifting his leg
Interesting info Xot. I'm certainly interested in seeing your zmv videos in the future
But have you been able to score 3-5 slapshot goals in one game vs. cpu on a semi-regular basis? Ray Bourque is the only player I can do it with and I do not change my slapshot technique at all when I use him compared to other great shooters. That's why I still believe that Bourque has some sort of "hidden" ability. Almost every shot of his comes off his stick like a laser (at least 50 to 75% of the time) and I find that cpu goalies tend to "barely" make the save against Bourque on rougly half of his shots compared to most other shooters...
Maybe it's just me I guess. Somehow slapshot goals just feel like they come easier with Bourque for me...
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I don't know jack about SNES though aside from the real basics. Maybe I could get some outside contributions for SNES?
If there are no objections, I'd like to contribute some ideas/suggestions about building lines on the SNES version. I'm certainly not the best online player, but I've used every team at least a few times and pretty much always change the default lines strategically. I've also noted almost all of the line changes that my opponents like to make with each team and feel that this is a good indicator as to the kind of suggestions I could put up for SNES players.
Let me know what you guys think
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Well, the video wasn't necessarily done for tutorial/instructional purposes. It was more meant to simply show the power of using Ray Bourque in slapshot situations. When I talked to Halifax via AIM last night and mentioned Bourque's abilities, Halifax asked me to record a full game in real time to prove that Bourque can land more than an odd slapper or two a game, hence the video I posted that shows no replays, etc...
Needless to say, I couldn't replicate a 5 slapper goal game I previously had with Ray, but I think 3 slapshot goals and a shot off the post in one game proves that Bourque has some sort of "special" ability for slapshots against cpu goalies that other players simply don't have in the SNES version .
However, I like your suggestion. It is pretty easy to go back and make a tutorial video off previous highlights that I have. I will do one soon and add it to my slapshot knowledge in my previous post
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Okay folks, the Ray Bourque slapshot video has arrived.
I didn't get quite the results I was looking for due to recently having a single game where I scored with Ray's slappers 5 times. However, 3 slapshot goals (2 going north) and 1 shot off the post (no small feat with a normal shooter especially going north) is enough to show that Ray Bourque can be a weapon with slapshots on the SNES and appears to have something of a more "gifted" slapshot than any other skater in SNES NHL 94.
I will also embed this video into the post I created about slapshots.
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You're very welcome Halifax and I hope the rest of the SNES guys enjoy my info as well. I added two new screenshots to it depicting a slapshot going north against the goalie. Ray Bourque slapshot video is still being worked on as I type this right now
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While having an AIM conversation with Halifax tonight, I was encouraged to share some knowledge I had in this topic and so I've decided to share some info I've stumbled on and "discovered" regarding slapshots and how to score with them more often (even versus other human players)... And so here's what I have to contribute to bible camp...
General Overview
It goes without saying that the higher a skater's shot power and shot accuracy, the greater the chances of successfully scoring against a cpu goalie. That being said, lining up the slapshot and timing the slapshot take highest priority when attempting to score against a cpu goalie when a human skater might be sitting back awaiting a deke or performing a backcheck with a forward. As Halifax previously mentioned, it is best to aim the shot at the top corners of the net in order to have the best chance of scoring a goal.
Now we move onto the principles of lining up, timing, and ultimately unleashing a 100 mph rocket headed for the back of the net...
Lining up the shot
There are 2 positions that can be taken with your skater that appear to increase the likelihood of the slapshot becoming a goal:
Position 1: Puck in-line with the post
Though this idea is borrowed from the Gens version of NHL 94, it still applies to this position in the SNES version. Simply enough, you bring your skater up or down towards the goalie and time the shot to where when your skater begins to wind up for the shot and also when his stick makes contact with the puck, the puck is "lined" up with the goal post of the side/corner you are trying to aim for.
Here are a few screenshots depicting Eric Lindros lining up a slapshot going south against the goalie:
There is some give or take with "lining up" the shot. Sometimes, the shot may not appear to be lined up as well as you'd like, but you'll find that it goes in anyway, or you may be approaching the goalie from a slight angle and take the slapper and it will go in even though the puck was not lined up with the post. Again, simple give and take (and more often than not, luck).
Here are two screenshots of Dimitri Yushkevich skating north and lining up a shot. Notice the priciple of "give and take" in full effect as the "shoot" button was hit as the puck was lined up with the post, but the shot did not actually occur until Yushkevich was more in between the two goal posts:
Position 2: Skater in-line with the post
The same idea as lining up the puck with the post. You line your skater up for the shot and time it to where he will shoot the puck as he is in-line with the post. For the most part, this position is effective when aiming for the post opposite of the post that you have lined your skater up with. Again, give or take applies, but the more the skater is lined up with the post, the likelihood of scoring with a slapshot on the SNES appears to be somewhat greater when aiming for the opposite post.
Timing the shot
Aside from shot power and accuracy, timing appears to be the most crucial element of scoring with a slapshot. Aside from the timing methods listed above, the best generalization of when the shot should be taken has everything to do with the goalie's positioning. The trick is timing the shot to come off the skater's stick as the goalie is moving further away from the net to contest the shot and stop it. Precisely, if the goalie as at the maximum distance that the cpu will ever take him away from the net in normal play (without being pulled for an extra attacker or moved away in a manual goalie move), the slapshot seems to consistently slip by the goalie. From there, the shot is either going to sail wide and above the net, hit the post, or hit the back of the net for a goal.
Final notes and Conclusion
One thing should always be remembered; the slapshot is a lower percentage scoring chance. No matter how much a person works to develop the move, there is no set formula or method for scoring with a slapshot. In experimenting against the cpu (playing games where I would only score with slapshots in best of 7 mode), I had games where I scored 3 slapshot goals using 5 min periods and no offside and I had some games where it took 5 periods of OT to even win the game 1-0.
One other important thing to note is that Ray Bourque appears to be the only player in the SNES game that can score on slapshots more consistently than any other player in the game. I believe this is due to the fact that defenseman in general appear to be programmed to have higher shot power than forwards regardless of ratings as evidenced by seeing big blasts from players such as Igor Kravchuk, Geoff Smith, and Dimitri Yushkevich despite these players having modest shot power ratings. In Bourque's case, he boasts shot power and accuracy consistently above 80 each game. Combining his natural power as a D-man with his high shot power rating and accuracy and inexplicably, Ray Bourque becomes a weapon with slapshots if one can set him up effectively.
That's about it folks. I hope you enjoyed reading about the least used scoring method on the SNES version of NHL 94 (and with no surprise due to the inconsistency of slapshots on the SNES). Hopefully, this gives you one more move to use every now and then that may generate a laugh, a surprising goal, or maybe even a back-breaking OT goal that leaves your opponent speechless after a grueling and hard fought game.
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wow, Oilers, dude, way to abandon your valid points and concede to the masses. your posts were level-headed and fair, but now they are devoid of any content. did they ridicule you into submission? well, I'm off to commit more Gary Larson.
Nope, no concession to the masses. However, it was brought to my attention that a few things I said were maybe slightly offensive among other things to a few other members here. Because I don't want trouble here and because I could look at my previous statements with a cool head a few hours later, I removed any offensive remarks. My main points still remain however and I still stand by them but without insulting/offending anyone, or singling out any individuals...
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EDIT:
I want to go on record and say a few things:
1. The reason I reacted the way I did in my first post here was because I don't like internet trolling, arguing etc.. It simply drives me crazy as a whole. But because this is the NHL 94 forum, a place dedicated to arguably the greatest sports game of all time, it drove me even more crazy to see what I still feel was more pointless arguing.
2. I'm sorry if my comments tonight have offended anyone.
3. I do not intend to disrespect anyone or call out anyone. Though I've talked to a few guys on aim since my first post in the topic and said I was sorry, I want to take the time to apologize to everyone as a whole right now if I offended anyone or inadvertently called out/attacked any individual.
Lastly - I've edited my previous posts to remove any inadvertent remarks, call-outs, etc. I once again apologize for my previous conduct. I just want this to be a respectable community for such a great game that we all love. I guess I went too far in trying to convey that.
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bttw i didnt insult u oilers
Ok man, I'll take your word for it. No disrespect intended man and I am sorry if I came off as an a$*hole towards you.
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One question tough.
If you're now in Tennessee and from Syracuse.
The Oilers?
Haha, maybe not for long since the Jets are coming back.
Basically, when it comes to sports teams in the last 10 years, I'm always going against the grain in terms of who I root for. Something about rooting for the local teams in the area I live in has just never appealed to me. And it always seems to be the first team I see when I pick up on watching a sport becomes the main team I root for
So when I started watching the NHL full time in 2009, the Oilers were the first team I saw. Hence, my favorite right now. However, when I was about 4 yrs old in 1994 and I was playing NHL 94, I LOVED using the Winnipeg Jets. I saw them once or twice on tv as well so I've always had something of a deep connection with the Jets and as I grew older, I always hoped that maybe they would come back someday so I could see them again. Now that my hopes are about to become reality, I'm pretty sure the Jets will be my favorite team come next season, and Edmonton will shift down to #2.
Sorry for the long winded reply, but I guess that's my reason (as lame as it might be
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Fact is, I'm not backing anyone and I'm not trying to make enemies. If you read closely, I called out trudat as well by mentioning "whether or not he is a troll". I've seen tru's posts. I've seen what he's said. I think his arguments against the Gens version are baseless and flat out ridiculous at times. I certainly do not want any part of what he says and I certainly am not backing him in his anti-gens crusade whatsoever.
Does anyone honestly think that multiple users hi-jacking this thread and contributing toward turning it into a flame war is not trolling? I didn't accuse anyone to back trudat, I made accusations because of trolling and pointless arguing, plain and simple.
So kupuck, if you believe that my statement is an invitation to be trolled, you apparently condone any future trolling I may receive from you or anyone else? Well, that just proves my original point exactly. The intelligence of the internet community takes a further dive if trolling becomes acceptable or so called necessary in any situation, period.
Troll me if you must to allow yourself to sleep better at night, but the fact is that anyone who thinks specific people need to be trolled (so called "punished" i should say) for trying to make this forum a somewhat nicer and less hostile place is not doing this forum/community any favors for our current and possible future users who want to come here and have peaceful discussions about the game, hacks, strategies, etc...
Lastly, @RussianRocket - If sarcasm was not intended, which I'm assuming it wasn't.... Thanks
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children! children! enough!
Quite frankly, this Snes vs. Gens crap is getting old too from both sides. Not only when remarks are made about why a certain version sucks but also when crap is started up for no reason because you don't like the guy based on a previous number of stupid posts he made, or don't like his views on your version of the game. He's merely sharing something from a hack he's worked on. In this topic, he didn't call out any of you as he may have before or begin by saying how much gens94 sucks. So your trolling is simply uncalled for. Way to ruin what could have been a contstructive topic.
You don't like what he posts or shares? Ignore it! As a generalization, you all should realize that even though he may or may not be a troll with saying why he thinks Gens sucks, you're just as big a troll for posting "SNES=Fail", "Mofape", "Snes will always be 2nd", "omgzors", "GA", etc....
Can't we co-exist and just get along?
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I got 143. Missed 3-4 due to spelling.
Dallas was my weakest point with no guesses for either d-man or the goalie.
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I definitely agree with you on the older games having more replayability. I mean I love the last three NHL games up through NHL '11, but '94 will always be my favorite.
Games are generally even I guess. But you should play online if you haven't. Plenty of players with differing skill levels to play against, including some more challenging guys
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Greetings friends and to those I never spoke to that may read this,
I signed up for this forum back in 2009 in a time where I was only looking for a rom of SNES NHL 94 with updated rosters. I found what I was looking for rather quickly and disappeared from here for a while and only came around sporadically.
In December of 2010, I returned with an interest in playing some games online. Though I am honestly not sure why I wanted to play online, I made a post asking for some help in getting set up, created an AIM account, and then I waited. Within 15 minutes, I was contacted by c4outlaws (rc69fab) for some games, and within another 15 minutes, we we're playing (myself as Winnipeg). The first faceoff looked promising as I won it, drove to the outside with Teemu Selanne at Right Wing, and fed Alexei Zhamnov for a quick one timer and a quick 1-0 lead not even 15 seconds into the game. I said to myself, "like taking candy from a baby."
10-15 minutes later, the game had become one-sided and I lost 7-2. Talk about a fast education! haha. My point in this story is that I came here thinking I was the best SNES NHL 94 player there was, and I was sorely mistaken and humbled by many of the opponents I played. And so I played more, and more, and more, enjoying each moment, each game, and getting a little better each time.
However, through all the games in my spare time away from college over the last of winter break, all of spring break, and summer break up to now, I lost my true "heart and soul." Allow me to elaborate...
When I was 14 years old back in 2004, I began to learn how to play the electric guitar. My dad showed me the basics of how to sound out notes on the fretboard and how to mute to create a "heavy" chugging sound like Metallica uses. Over the next 6-7 years, I practiced and practiced and never took a single organized lesson from any professionals or teachers. The instrument became something I confided in during the best of times when I was 16 and during the darkest of times when I was 18 and going through teenage issues with relationships, self-confidence, and even depression. Because playing the guitar, writing music, and expressing what I felt kept me afloat when nothing else in life was going right, I vowed to myself that I would never stop playing the instrument and that I wanted to have some form of a career as a guitarist in a band, solo, or as a studio musician, etc...
Unfortunately enough, I have become far too addicted to NHL 94 over the last 6-7 months. The amount of hours I have practiced guitar in this time has been the least that I have practiced since I began learning the instrument.
Therefore, it is with much regret that I must respectfully resign as an online NHL 94 player. My aspirations and hopes for a career in music depend upon me putting forth a lot of effort and time into perfecting my guitar skills, songwriting abilities, and other intangibles. I cannot put forth the required effort and time if I continue to play NHL 94 as much as I have been.
On that note, I would like to end by saying that I have had the time of my life playing online against the other SNES players. You guys have all taught me things about this game that I never knew existed. The only way I could ever become the best player would be to quit playing guitar and music completely and focus only on NHL 94. However, I must return to my journey of being a professional guitarist for my own good and before I ruin my chances of ever being successful in the one thing that I have ever wanted to do in life as a career.
So here is a special thank you to the players that I played with and competed against that taught so much about the game, that I consider friends, and that I'll periodically be keeping an eye on their progress in any future tournaments and online leagues that they participate in: c4outlaws, cjgarnet, danlizhot, grayto, fenty, iceguy94, xot82, pondhcky, pokerchamp, hulieuxnhl, manipleleaves.
If I forgot anyone, I apologize. I hope to someday list all of your names once again in the thank you notes of the first album I am on (if I am lucky enough to make it that far).
My last act will be to clear out the vaults of NHL 94 highlights that I have compiled since August of 2009. I will compile and post those in 1 or 2 youtube videos and then link them here. Not sure when I will do that, but it will be sooner rather than later.
I'm sorry to those that I may be letting down and disappointing. But this is the only way... I've never been good at practicing moderation in things that have gotten out of hand for me...
Best regards and best wishes to you all,
-Oilers442
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Played '94 periodically as a kid from 1994-1999. Discovered emulators in 2006 and started playing '94 again periodically. Got back into the NHL full time in 2009 and started playing '94 again...but more periodically lol. So then I got interested in finding a hack of '94 with the 2009 rosters. Ran a google search and found this site. Joined then but didn't hang around much until late 2010.
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Not to stir up trouble or take sides, but why is it that stheds was allowed to move on via "forefeit" in the series against fenty when I saw fenty on aim more often than stheds? In fact, I haven't seen stheds on aim at all in like 2-3 weeks...So much for being "undisputed champ".
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RWD is right. Atlanta highly supports the Falcons and the NFL, but that's about it. They have not properly supported the Thrashers at all.
I truly hope this report will be true. Winnipeg was my favorite team when I was very young. The Jets are my favorite team to play with in NHL 94. Even though I'm not Canadian, I am a Winnipeg supporter through and through and hope that they are coming back so I can reclaim my favorite NHL team once again!
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Tonight I believe I played the most epic OT game ever online vs. danlizhot_2010 on the SNES. We were playing as part of a best of 5 series for fun. He was Quebec and I was Edmonton. Our series was back and forth heading into game 4 as the home team far and away had the advantage in each of the games with Quebec taking games 1 and 3 at home while Edmonton took game 2 at home.
Thus, Dan was up in the series 2-1 with game 4 being held in Edmonton. After 3 periods we were deadlocked at a 2-2 tie going into overtime. The 1st OT period begun and neither of us had too big of scoring chances. Mostly a defensive affair and so the period passed tied. We had to start a new exhibition game to continue overtime and we went through another 4 OTs and the scoring chances started opening up in a major way. I started getting a bunch of one-timer chances with Craig Simpson and Petr Klima in the 4th OT but couldn't bury them. Dan was getting a lot of deke opportunities with Sakic, Sundin, and Nolan. His defense in this game was absolutely amazing as well and I just couldn't get anything past him or get any good deke opprtunities to go in either. Needless to say, goalies Hextall and Ranford played exceptionally and would not let anything through (amazing manual goalie moves took place in this game by both teams...)
Finally, the 5th OT began (OT period of the 2nd exhibition game we had started earlier!). The 1st minute went as usual, mostly defensive. Then I turned the puck over at center ice and took Simpson to cover against a high slot one timer. Dan took Sakic, proceeded to drive to the right side of Ranford and then made an incredible drop pass to Nolan for a seemingly impossible one-timer that slipped by Ranford's left side. An incredible finish to a rather incredible game!! The thrill and adrenaline of having a 5 OT game pretty much made me forget that I had just lost the series 3-1!
And so hopefully I haven't bored you with a long drawn story about the epic OT game that Dan and I had, but I would like to ask, what is the longest OT game that you guys have played against another human player?
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I thought you guys might get a kick out of this one, lol:
Btw Jeff, thanks for the compliments on my other video and I'm glad you like Annihilator's Weapon X!
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I voted 10. This is probably one of the fairest and most laid back forums I've ever been a member of...And that's a good thing. Not too many people are uptight, everyone just wants to get along, talk hockey, etc...
Only thing I will add is that I agree about the need for some sort of database for attributes, especially for the SNES version. Many times in my college classes, I'm thinking about new line combos I want to try out for online play and thinking about attributes such as speed, shot power/accuracy, etc. but I don't have my laptop handy to fire up my emulator and view the attributes.
However, this issue is extremely minor and really doesn't change my opinion of this forum or NHL94.com.
Customer service is an absolute 10/10
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I got you covered bud if you haven't played a test game yet.
What's your aim?