Edge of '94 Midwest

In the interest of attracting newer players to the community, we are aiming at running a small number of tournaments leading up to the big weekend. We hope to stream those events.

Our sponsor Edge VR Arcade has extended a special offer to all tournament participants. Buy a half hour of VR time and get your 2nd half hour free! The variety of VR experiences is immense, and isn't limited to just games. There are movies(no not those kind of movie), different simulations, and well yeah games. Arda loves Gorn, and you will too.

are you aware of any method to play against humans in this outside of local play? Might have to have this on the side at our tournament in February.

Thanks for the feedback. I know you gave me a much longer one in private afterwards. I took it to heart and improvements have been made. A woman was interested in, and paid to be in the tournament, along with her husband. They played in our qualifier tournament and had a blast. There were two children in the event(one was my son), and if memory serves, they both won games, against adults. I know at least one of them did(my kid). So that's 32/35 players that participated that don't fit that description. I'm not sure what you mean by "drive marketing". I don't know how many live tournaments outside of King of 94 you've been to. What I can tell you is that at most video game tournaments, you get a wide spectrum of talent. We literally experienced the best there is(Raph and AJ on Gens), some mid tier, and newer players. Yes, we've exposed people to the community they didn't know existed. I'm not sure how that's a negative. If you were expecting 35 Gens B calibur people or better to be there, I think you might want to attend a few more regional tournaments to see how those things tend to add up. Relating this to Tecmo, I attended Tecmo Jam Cleveland this year, and about 6-10 guys out of about 70 players who were contenders to win it all, and then there was everyone else. Everyone had fun. I think that was the general opinion of our event. I hope you found something you enjoyed during your stay with us. The delay regarding SNES and Genesis has been addressed. The tournament ran longer due to a number of factors, and we are addressing that to make sure it doesn't run as long next time. We are running Genesis first this time, and have brought the food equation in house, and will have more systems in play to speed things along. The seeding while announced well in advance ended up being substituted for an abbreviated Swiss format due to time constraints. Something I felt awful about and do apologize for. We wanted to invite SNES players into the fold, and will continue have it be a part of our event. However, until we get a better representation from the community, it will remain 2nd to Genesis. The way you approached me the day before was fairly abrasive, and to be fair, you're an intimidating guy, even if that's not your intention(takes shirt off mid tournament lol). If I made alterations to seeding based that type of discourse hours before the event, I feel that I would be opening a door I cannot close. No rankings list is perfect. As we are playing in a local tournament, I think a local ratings system is the best way to go. I'm guessing that you won't be returning(I hope I'm wrong). To be the best, you have to beat the best. I hope you'll give us another shot, but we will be using that list Smoz has. As we had a few no shows day of last time, we had to reorder things, and I think having this data makes it extremely easy to snake groups together based on who shows up. Thanks again for the feedback, and regardless of what you do in the future, I think you're good for the community. I enjoyed you on the mic with Arda. -Trojan

This was the version of NHL hockey that I ever played. I still maintain it's not NHL94, as the Stars were in Dallas, yet they remain in MN for this game, and other team rosters reflect this. Still, it's a lot of fun, too bad they don't have manual goalie control. I'll forgive them as they do have the full season mode in there, and that makes it the perfect vs CPU hockey game.

Well we just announced our february 2019 tournament if you feel like joining us in the midwest. We ended up drawing a lot of local casuals, but had a nice traveling turnout this year.

For those with vehicular transportation, there are much better breakfast options not terribly far away. One legendary place is known as Pancake Place. The only kicker is you want to get there very early.

Eggs in quotes, legendary. Now we know AJ's kryptonite. I fully expect @kingraph to grind up eggshells to put in his beer.

Sold bud, they will have a plenty! Hopefully your friend(sorry can't remember which guy it was) won't get sick again. I suppose we could add Famous Dave's to the cautionary list, but I think he was the only one that suffered that fate. Arda and I ran a train on their cuisine the day before without issue.

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Hold for Results and signups. Bold means paid in full. Italics means staff/sponsor and no entry is collected. Rankings shows Genesis and then Super Nintendo separated by a "/" Total Player Count : 30 Total funds collected : $1035(rounded up) Total funds to payout : $776 Genesis tournament $388 approx split 60/30/10 split $233/$116/$40 SNES tournament $388 approx split 60/30/10 $233/$116/$40 Going Trojan(Organizer) 64/42 Lil Trojan(Son of Organizer) 214/175 Mike Rahn(Titletown Financial) unranked/unranked Ryan K(won free entry from Michy Benefit) 215/183 Phil Naumann(entry was transferred from Tom Stahnke) unranked/unranked $40 Darik Aho 6/unranked $38.54(PP fee) EA(Eric Vostal) 8/86 $40 Angryjay93(Also Tecmo) 1/13 $40 PUNKYQB(Chris K) 216/178 $40 DPS 48/unranked $40 Kingraph 2/10 $40 Tyler Votaw 42/166 $40 Green Majik(Also Tecmo) 50/150 $40 Leif Erikson 12/127 $38.xx(PP fee) Francis Buennegal(Mort) 25/unranked $40 Troy Evers(NMU Fred) 174/176 $40 Timpapi unranked/unranked $40 Graham Tesch(Cash) 167/160 $40 Moe Man(Cash) 207/115 $40 Hank the Tank unranked/unranked $38.25 The Shield 14/164 $40 Tony Nguyen aka Darth Sievious unranked/unranked $40 Steven Dolan(Tony's Nephew) unranked/unranked $40 Ryan Anderson unranked/unranked $40 Adam Boucher unranked/unranked $40 Jack Kim unranked/unranked $40 Ben McDonnell unranked/unranked $40 Ryan Murphy unranked/unranked $40 Charlie Reibsamen unranked/unranked $40 MikeGartner22 23/unranked $40

Register Here: https://tinyurl.com/2019NHL94 What : NHL 94 tournaments for both Genesis and SNES, preceded by a Tecmo Super Bowl tournament the evening before. Where : Edge VR Arcade in Green Bay, WI 2642 Packerland Drive Suite 1, Green Bay, WI 54313 When : February 23th, 2019 10AM - conclusion(Tecmo starts 7PM Friday Feb 22nd) Cost : The $40($50 if you also want to play Tecmo Friday night) entry fee automatically enters you in both the Genesis and SNES tournaments.(Genesis will precede SNES). Stand alone Tecmo players will pay $20 for Friday night only. Payment will be be via Paypal to trojan1979@gmail.com, please use friends and family option to avoid the fees Paypal charges. Funds will be refunded if notice is given up to 2 weeks preceding the tournament. Children aged 10 or older may participate with their parent/guardian for only $10 per day. Format : Group play will precede bracket play, first Genesis, then SNES. There is an initial 50 player cap for this tournament. The venue has expended and improved since our 2018 tournament. Our goal is to have at least 14 systems of each in play, minimizing the wait time in between games. Group seeding will be based on the official NHL94 rankings as created and maintained by @smozoma Bracket play will consist of a single elimination best of 3 series. Higher seed will pick tier and be player 2/home team for game 1 and 3(if needed), lower seed is Player 1 and will be home for game 2. The number of participants in bracket play will be decided closer to the event as we know how many players will actually be in attendance. Rules : 5 minute periods, penalties on, no offside, manual goalie. If it's in the game, it's in the game. No game mechanics are banned. Examples are pass shots, CB checks, hail mary shots, goalie interference goals, rebound goals on penalty shots, etc.   A coin flip winner will be the home team(player 1) and call the tier for team selection. The opposing player is the away team(player 2) and chooses which team they want based on the tier selected. You may select from within or below the tier specified. Example: Player 1 selects Tier 2. That removes DET, BUF, CHI, VAN, MTL from selection in that matchup. Player 1 chooses CGY, Player 2 selects BOS. There are no restrictions how many times you call a tier or select a team based on the tier selected. Genesis tiers are as follows and are subject to change based on community feedback(Tiers are currently specified per Angryjay93): Tier 1: DET, BUF CHI, VAN Tier 2: MTL, LA, CGY, WPG, BOS Tier 3: QUE, DAL NYR, TOR Tier 4: PHI, EDM, WSH, PIT Tier 5: NJD, STL, HFD, NYI Tier 6: TB, SJ, OTW, ANH, FLA SNES Tiers are as follows:Thanks @annatar and @Bob Kudelski 1 - PIT BOS NYR DET 2 - CHI LA BUF CGY WSH 3 - VAN QUE WPG MTL 4 - NJ PHI STL TOR 5 - EDM NYI DAL HFD 6 - ANA FLA OTT SJ TB Games cannot end in a tie. A new game must be started in the event of a tie game at the end of overtime. Intentional time wasting in your own zone is prohibited. You must attempt tadvancing the puck into the opposing zone whenever possible. Players caught abusing this may have goals deducted, or in extreme cases the game awarded to the opposing player. Players are required to take a photo of their score and report to the scorekeeper. There is a 6 goal deficit mercy rule. The game is over once a 6 goal difference is reached. 6 goals is the max goal differential counted. Players are permitted to bring their own OEM or approved 3rd party controllers. All other equipment is provided by us. Having equipment on hand from volunteers as spares is always appreciated, but not required. Payout : 100% of entry funds taken in from child entries will be paid out, 50% to each bracket. For each $40 entry, $15 goes to the SNES bracket, $15 to the Genesis bracket, the remaining goes to cover expenses. An approximate 60/30/10 split payout will be for each bracket to 1st/2nd/3rd place. (Tecmo will have a 75% payout to the top 3 places 60/30/10) Hotel Accommodations :There are multiple locations within 2 minutes driving distance, including one that can be walked to from the venue. We are working on setting up a group rate and will update this thread when we have it. We are about 3 minutes from the Airport in Green Bay. For those wondering where to stay, the Hotel J is a 2 minute walk away from the venue, or a 10 minute crawl if you overindulge. Hotel J Address: 2620 S Packerland Dr, Green Bay, WI 54313 Phone: (920) 499-1900 We do recommend you eat your breakfast elsewhere besides Hotel J based on prior participant feedback. Food and Drink at Venue : It is asked that while you are still in contention for said tournament that you remain on premise. There is pizza and bottled beer available to order from the Edge VR Arcade, and is priced reasonably. At this time there are no carry ins permitted unless you have special dietary restrictions(please contact us about those in advance). If you leave the venue and we have to wait on you, you risk forfeiture of your game(s). What types of systems are used for this? : All screens used are CRT using analog connections(typically composite), which means no input lag. All Genesis systems and controllers are OEM, or Gamerztek brand clones. SNES are a mix of 1st gen, model 2, and NOAC clone units(again mostly Gamerztek). All controllers are either OEM or Cirka, Hyperkin, or Gamerztek brand clones, which work very well.  You are welcome to use and bring your own OEM controller. Will this be streamed? : Yes, unless otherwise stated you can follow the action on https://www.twitch.tv.tgfnretro The Retro Sports Gamer will also be streaming a 2nd station on Youtube. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_b9V5HP0eJZyLuhuEmDf_g?pbjreload=10 Can I dress up in hockey attire? : Yes, you will basically be put in the sin bin if you don't get into character. How can I help the tournament organizers? : In addition to committing early to attend we ask that you share the existence of this tournament, early and often, on all forms of social media. Make travel plans early, and lock in so we know you are coming. Bring new players, and make a weekend of it. Will there be additional prizes? : In addition to cash prizes, and Lord Manly's Cup, we plan on having many different hockey related prizes for giveaway available. All entrants will be eligible for some prizes just for being there. We may hold a raffle to support a cause, but haven't finalized that just yet.

Looking to firm up our requirements with the Edge VR Arcade, which has more than doubled in size since our last tournament. We are about 95% sure this is when the magic is happening. Our goal is to do Tecmo Super Bowl on NES the 22nd the evening before, then on Saturday the 23rd host the Genesis tournament first, then the SNES tournament afterward. We are already fielding quite a bit of interest and requests after last year's event. Our goal is 50 players this time, and we have more space for systems this time around. We hope this community will have even better representation from those that travel. Stay tuned for an official announcement.

I'll look but it was done on paper, more than months ago. I'll make sure to have all data moving forward in Challonge, as we will see Swiss group play moving forward, and it will be done to completion, not abreviated.

This is very cool @smozoma. Would you mind sharing with me what data from our Green Bay tournaments you had available for these considerations? I'm guessing there may be more data out there. Not all of our group play data in the past had made it out to Challonge brackets. Whether that makes a difference or not is to be seen. Nice to see our local player The_Shield aka Tim Ubick make #12 on Genesis. Having only played in a single SNES tournament, I thought 33 was a respectable number for myself. Thanks again for doing this! Stats keep people engaged and interested, and keep them coming back for more.

These do output a decent composite signal, and are extremely small, and the included controllers are as good as any 3rd party Genesis controller I've used. I brought one to the Tecmo tournament in Chicago, and it worked great for some Genesis pick up games while we waited for a game to stream. Crt is best, but if your hotel has an HDTV, upscaling composite or using the built in HDMI scaler is going to have a similar lag experience, the difference being that the HDMI will look better.

What you have said is the most insanely idiotic thing I've ever read. Nothing you have written could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may the NHL94 gods have mercy on your soul. Seriously, your level of trolling exceeds even my own. Go find a new bridge.

Thanks Halifax.

I apologize, has the actual weekend been determined on this yet? I'm looking at hosting a Tecmo event in October in Green Bay, preferably the weekend of the 20th which is when the Packers have a bye week. Would like to avoid any conflicts with you guys, as there may be a player or two that would choose one over the other.

Stay tuned for more fun. We will start locking down dates soon. Hoping to make an announcement not far off from the big dance in Vancouver!

Update, I was able to get in touch with my contact at Fallout Games. First off, he stated that the batch their ordered was supposed to have longer controller cables, and that their next revision will have that this go around. Right now they are comparable with a normal Genesis controller, but they should be closer to that 10 foot length enjoyed by their current SNES clones. While the image appears sharper than the SNES clone, the Minigen HD does have that video distortion on horizontal movement issue. I have forwarded the following video to them for review. My guess is that the pixel uniformity is not there, or the signal is interlaced coming into the scaler, causing this artifacting. All that being said, it still beats playing via composite on an HD screen. There is some latency, but it's not bad. Some of the deke timings might be a bit off against those top tier goalies like Roy or Belfour, but maneuvers like checks, quick passes, really aren't affected IMO. I'm not a pass shot guy so I can't speak to that, but i'd think that would also be affected somewhat by the minor delay. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1g-YrAAq6S1W_sHuoi4UppNZ_PotEuxwm ^^ link for the video

Our friends at the Retro World Series are touring the states running Tecmo Super Bowl events. There is a high probability that we will be teaming up with them for a WI based event, one with a far greater reach. Check out their promo video, and please retweet it to spread the word to other retro gamers.

Where is his best announcer trophy, that's what I want to know!

I've had some time on the minigen HD. It's performance is comparable to the SNES version from Gamerztek with these differences.... 1) There is some sort of weird graphical distortion on movement. It's something that is difficult to unsee, like some sort of dithering. I'll try to post a video showing that later. It shows up especially around the stars that surround the player 2) The included 6 button controllers on the Minigen HD are closer to the original product, than the SNES version and are "good enough" for NHL94, but I'd still encourage folks to bring their own in case they were finicky. For some reason, the cables are fairly short, in contrast to the 10 foot cables on the SNES clones, which are really nice. Given the choice between composite on an HD screen from an original console, or HD from the clone, I'd go with the clone. The lag was not an issue for me to pull off dekes, one timers, etc. While it's not perfect, it's certainly playable, and would be an improvement over standard systems not attached to a CRT. In both the SNES and Genesis clones from Gamerztek, there seems to be an audio level issue, as in it's really loud and can easily distort, so you have to keep the TV audio down to compensate.