matthurray

so for a GWG...... it can be 4-1..... and if the losing team scores 2 more goals, the 4th goal by the winning team was the GWG? GWG are stats the nhl takes... is that how they do it?

with no knowledge of what the programmers had in mind for a GWG...... I am thinking that it should be pretty simple, like 1) consider the last time the game was tied 2) no lead changes can occur 3) the GWG was the 1st goal scored after 1 and 2 does the save state collect the necessary data for this? edit) and in looking at this, step 2 is redudant. no lead changes can occur after the last tie score.

the fact is that though I think all 3 are great.... is anyone playing better than Evgeni Malkin has been since Sid went out with the ankle injury? Geno scored more than Ovechkin did during that time.. and he's been lighting up the playoffs like crazy. I think it's a little bit of oversight on our parts that no one has picked him.

Crosby doesn't play like a wussie.... he plays hard every point. That is essentially his calling card (drawing penalties at the highest rate in the NHL) Now... if you said he whines to the refs, you may have a point, but that was mostly his rookie year.

yea so anyways... SCD is an east coast server, and works well for players on the east coast. I'm wondering if you got that memo over there on the west coast yet? so in response to your boycott, I feel I should boycott something West Coast... like maybe the TV show Full House... or perhaps the pornography industry. You tell me!

I was around 1 night to play... but no one was on that was on my schedule. I agree with Hokkee: release more games.

too bad we didn't get to log those games AJ... I should be available to play saturday night to log my games, so I'll be looking for people to play with

lw - tikkanen c - turgeon rw - ricci ld - gord murphy rd - kevin lowe G - roy lw - adam graves c - brindamour rw - michel goulet ld - roger johansson rd - jiri sleger G = tom draper

12.20 - pit Tom Draper

11.5 pit Jiri Slegr

10.20 pit takes michel goulet

5.5 Pittsburgh - Gord Murphy

Pittsburgh surprises itself and chooses Pierre Turgeon

considering how valuable a 1st, 2nd, or even 3rd round pick is, we shouldn't speed up the draft rounds by 200% just so hokkee can update his browser for the 500th time in the hour to see the next pick. considering people have jobs where they can't access internet OR a phone, i think we can all wait the same amount of time we've waited the 1st 3 seasons. I also don't like the idea of lists for the 1st 3 rounds (or even starters). People change their minds, and sometimes won't be satisfied with what their list gives them.

i'm hooked dude.... but i am shopping roy around, for the right offer. he's gold man, someone is going to bite

other than klima... what picks do you think were shocking?

I will take looks at trade bait for Roy.... of course I'll need something sweet to consider. This probably will be a bigger issue when a few rounds go by.

1-5 - Pittsburgh - Pat Roy

Fine reasoning: there aren't any glaring problems with the current set up in my opinion. GDL 1,2,3 were all very well organized and ran in my opinion. I just feel that if you become content with a good product, it will never become a great one. I hope that this issue can be monitored more closely this season, and potentially become a platform for future change. To call it a "180" degree change and an elaborate setup is quite drastic, and seems closed minded; you are merely organizing the divisions in a different manner. This is not difficult nor is it going to rock the world. We haven't had 2 consecutive seasons of consistent divisions yet. Coaches are still playing the same game against each other. The scheduling itself also should be relatively easy, as I showed roughly in an earlier post. It doesn't bother me that you are content with the current setup because it does work pretty well (mainly because of the dedication of GDL coaches), but I just want to make sure you keep yourself open to new ideas that will potentially improve an already well-ran league. Releasing games in sets sounds like a good start. I doubt that this idea will 'fail' by any means... I don't see a function of it creating more DNPs. and if we have as few as 6 guys on the west coast... then that means I have less games against west coasters, and less troubles with scheduling and lag overall. If that number rises, I hope you are open to keeping those problems to a minimum.

Thinking it through: 3 divisions of 4 teams in 2 conferences = 24 teams Play 4x games vs 3 division opponents = 12 games play 3x games vs. 8 intra-conf opponents = 24 games play 2x games vs. parallel inter-conference opponent (ex: AFC west vs. NFC west) = 8 games play 1x games vs. 8 other inter-conference opponents = 8 games Total: 52 games. 16 are East - West. This is reduced from a general estimate of 20-25 games East - West. (5 West opponents in each conference, 2 x 5 = 10 from opposing conference, 3 (on average) x 5 = 15 games from same conference) That is almost 10 fewer games of poor latency and scheduling issues. Fill in 4 random games, and you have 56. Scribe, I think parity is a pretty strong issue to divide divisions as well, but a) if we split up be geographic location, how does talent spread out? b ) how do we measure talent? by reputation, by GDL 3 standings, by a combination? I realize I'm hashing these issues out pretty hardcore, but we might as well make the GDL as airtight as possible if we can. It seems to be the best GENs league running, so let's continually improve it.

Well then consider it like the NFL (or like the NHL, which is what you want), and have 2 conferences with 3 divisions each. Then each conference can have a East division, a Central division (composed of mostly east teams), and a West division (of west managers and central). then when scheduling, managers play each other in their own division more frequently. This at least reduces the percentage of east vs. west games slightly, instead of altogether ignoring the issue. When it comes to the issue at hand, it's scheduling games vs. coaches who get on when I'm going to bed, and it's crappy gameplay dealing with lag. My 1 DNP was against takeyourpill who I was never able to match schedules with. Over an entire season, all games will probably be played (except those released right at the end....), but it's still a hassle to schedule. Even if you do fix the release of games issue... you're still dealing with lower quality gameplay.

though you are correct in saying it would be inconceivable to have 2 east coasters playing in a west coast division (unless 2 easterners typically stay up late and have no lag issues), I don't feel that means we should ignore the problem for this season. The lag and time-delay are rather large issues that probably result in some unenjoyable choppy play and probably some DNPs This is probably a radical idea, but what about 3 divisons of 8 players? You can then base playoff seedings off of division winners and then highest point totals... and there is no need for conferences. It would be similar to how the AFC or NFC operate by themselves in the NFL. I'm sure other people have better ideas at the moment; I'm a little mentally exhausted, but I just don't think this issue should be kicked to the curb

I'll stick with the Pens. I am back for season 4.

the winnepeg jets were allowed... there should be no legitimate argument against this logic I am so proud of you, Hokkee.

Are there 20+ coaches returning? We need to figure that one out first.