kingraph Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 An AHL team may be looking for a fun NHL'94 way to introduce their season via social media. In short, I think getting a base ROM with the AHL team logos set up is what would be needed as a start. There's no need for in depth player ratings, or even roster updates at this time. I personally don't have enough time on my plate to knock this out, so I'm seeing if there's anyone interested in collaborating. 32 teams, would be better if 4 people knocked out 8 teams each or even better 8 people did 4! You can PM me if interested or respond here. Abbotsford Canucks Bakersfield Condors Belleville Senators Bridgeport Islanders Calgary Wranglers Charlotte Checkers Chicago Wolves Cleveland Monsters Coachella Valley Firebirds Colorado Eagles Grand Rapids Griffins Hartford Wolf Pack Henderson Silver Knights Hershey Bears Iowa Wild Laval Rocket Lehigh Valley Phantoms Manitoba Moose Milwaukee Admirals Ontario Reign Providence Bruins Rochester Americans Rockford IceHogs San Diego Gulls San Jose Barracuda Springfield Thunderbirds Syracuse Crunch Texas Stars Toronto Marlies Tucson Roadrunners Utica Comets Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 EDIT: ignore, used too many colours I took a stab at a logo, but the AHL logos are so.. busy.. they need a lot of manual touching up. Needs a proper pixel artist But anyway this one is all set up for importing straight into a ROM (pre-darkened for Tile Molester accurate import) Palette: RED GREEN BLUE 224 224 224 :1 128 128 160 :2 64 64 96 :3 96 96 128 :4 128 160 160 :5 192 192 192 :6 160 160 192 :7 192 96 96 :8 192 64 64 :9 160 96 96 :10 32 32 96 :11 192 32 32 :12 224 64 96 :13 192 96 128 :14 160 32 64 :15 (Does one need to be black for it to be valid in Tile Molester?) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 I had a little better luck by removing the white border around the WOLF PACK text. Will post tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted May 3 Author Report Share Posted May 3 7 hours ago, smozoma said: (Does one need to be black for it to be valid in Tile Molester?) For team logos - one color will be white and one black. Then you have 10 other colors you can use. 4 are unusable as they are used for the home/visitor banner colors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted May 3 Author Report Share Posted May 3 I've added the teams in my OP -- looks like a few teams I have done previously. So there's a start! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 1 hour ago, kingraph said: For team logos - one color will be white and one black. Then you have 10 other colors you can use. 4 are unusable as they are used for the home/visitor banner colors. Well this calls for a new mode in smozDither 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 12-colour wolf pack logo, ready for importing to TM RED GREEN BLUE 224 224 224 :white 128 128 160 :2 64 64 96 :3 96 96 128 :4 128 160 160 :5 160 192 192 :6 32 32 96 :7 192 96 96 :8 224 32 64 :9 128 96 96 :10 192 32 32 :11 12th colour is black 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Ozbourne Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 (edited) I guess I'll post this here as a general note. My trick is to use photoshop to create an index colour image with about three times the allowable colours and the then use the colour table option to decide which colours to round up or down in order to adhere to the SEGA palette, but also maintain some sort of contrast when reducing to twelve including the default white and black. Still requires some manual drawing, but at least this way it's 90-95% of the way there. The other reason[s] for posting is that I used the version of the logo without the word mark. Is there a preference to which to use? I figure in the case of the Moose, Phantoms, Admirals, Ice Hogs, Thunderbirds and Roadrunners, at least they have versions of their logos that don't contain text and that would drastically improve how well they translate in 48x48 pixels, never mind tacking on the twelve colour restriction on top of that. Colours: -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black unused] 224 224 224 [white] 000 000 032 000 032 064 032 032 064 000 064 128 000 096 160 064 064 064 096 096 096 128 128 128 160 160 160 192 192 192 Edited May 4 by von Ozbourne 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Ozbourne Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 Well shoot guys. I did up a few last night, but something wasn't feeling right. Slept on it and realized the problem. I was using the wrong number of colours. I remembered that the bottom 9-16 and the #8 spot are used for logo colours and #6 & #7 are for white and black and #2 & #3 are the Home team banner, #4 & #5 are the Away team banner, but that leave #1, which is, like many other assets, still for transparency. Shouldn't be too much of an issue to remove the one more tone. Some of these didn't even need the full allotment of colours. I edited the Moose entry already and will post the rest a bit later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Ozbourne Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 Calgary -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black unused] 224 224 224 [white] 192 000 032 224 096 128 224 160 192 224 192 192 224 224 160 224 192 032 224 160 064 224 096 032 192 064 032 Chicago -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black] 224 224 224 [white] 192 000 032 096 032 032 128 160 032 192 192 192 160 160 160 128 128 128 096 096 096 064 064 064 032 032 032 Coachella Valley -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black] 224 224 224 [white] 192 000 032 128 000 032 064 032 032 224 096 032 160 064 032 224 032 032 192 192 192 160 160 160 032 032 032 Iowa -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black unused] 224 224 224 [white] 000 064 032 000 096 032 032 096 064 032 128 064 064 128 096 128 160 128 096 128 128 160 192 160 192 192 192 Laval -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black unused] 224 224 224 [white] 000 032 096 032 032 128 128 128 160 160 160 192 192 192 224 [#13 - #16 unused] Rochester -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black unused] 224 224 224 [white] 000 000 064 032 032 096 064 064 128 128 128 160 160 160 192 192 000 000 224 064 064 224 128 128 192 192 192 Texas -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black] 224 224 224 [white] 032 064 032 064 128 096 096 160 128 128 192 160 160 192 160 192 192 192 160 160 160 096 096 096 064 064 064 Toronto -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black unused] 224 224 224 [white] 000 032 128 032 064 128 096 128 160 224 160 192 064 032 064 032 096 064 224 192 032 224 064 032 192 192 192 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Ozbourne Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 Took a stab at a couple more tonight. Abbotsford and Tucson weren't bad. But then I figured I should get a word mark one out of the way. Can't say I like the results so far. Ended up spending about an hour on this one. Even going as far as to start redrawing the text, but halfway through the spacing of that awkward font was becoming a problem, so a new tact is in order. Basically looks like it's a question of what will be the least ugly/most legible. Getting late though so that will have to wait for tomorrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xstioph Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 22 hours ago, von Ozbourne said: Calgary -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black unused] 224 224 224 [white] 192 000 032 224 096 128 224 160 192 224 192 192 224 224 160 224 192 032 224 160 064 224 096 032 192 064 032 Chicago -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black] 224 224 224 [white] 192 000 032 096 032 032 128 160 032 192 192 192 160 160 160 128 128 128 096 096 096 064 064 064 032 032 032 Coachella Valley -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black] 224 224 224 [white] 192 000 032 128 000 032 064 032 032 224 096 032 160 064 032 224 032 032 192 192 192 160 160 160 032 032 032 Iowa -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black unused] 224 224 224 [white] 000 064 032 000 096 032 032 096 064 032 128 064 064 128 096 128 160 128 096 128 128 160 192 160 192 192 192 Laval -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black unused] 224 224 224 [white] 000 032 096 032 032 128 128 128 160 160 160 192 192 192 224 [#13 - #16 unused] Rochester -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black unused] 224 224 224 [white] 000 000 064 032 032 096 064 064 128 128 128 160 160 160 192 192 000 000 224 064 064 224 128 128 192 192 192 Texas -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black] 224 224 224 [white] 032 064 032 064 128 096 096 160 128 128 192 160 160 192 160 192 192 192 160 160 160 096 096 096 064 064 064 Toronto -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black unused] 224 224 224 [white] 000 032 128 032 064 128 096 128 160 224 160 192 064 032 064 032 096 064 224 192 032 224 064 032 192 192 192 Badass! 👌 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 My take on Abbotsford 224 224 224 :1 160 160 160 :2 128 128 128 :3 192 192 192 :4 32 64 64 :5 96 96 96 :6 32 32 64 :7 0 0 0 :8 0 32 32 :9 32 64 96 :10 0 96 32 :11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 Belleville Senators 224 224 224 :1 0 0 0 :2 32 0 0 :3 192 32 32 :4 128 128 128 :5 64 64 64 :6 192 160 160 :7 192 64 64 :8 192 96 96 :9 96 0 0 :10 96 96 96 :11 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 Bridgeport Islanders 224 224 224 :1 160 160 192 :2 128 128 160 :3 192 192 192 :4 32 64 128 :5 192 96 64 :6 96 64 96 :7 96 96 128 :8 160 96 96 :9 224 96 32 :10 0 0 0 :11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 Charlotte Checkers 224 224 224 :1 192 192 192 :2 160 160 160 :3 0 0 0 :4 128 128 128 :5 96 96 96 :6 32 32 32 :7 64 64 64 :8 192 0 32 :9 96 0 0 :10 128 0 0 :11 0 0 0 :12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted May 11 Author Report Share Posted May 11 This has been wonderful! Thank you @smozomaand @von Ozbourne! I wanted to let you know how much I appreciate your time and efforts so far! This project WILL be completed...I should have some time after this weekend to get out a ROM: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted May 12 Report Share Posted May 12 Cleveland Monsters 2 options, 1 with a straight vertical ridge on the head, and the other with a dithered/checked ridge 224 224 224 :1 192 192 160 :2 160 160 128 :3 160 128 64 :4 96 96 64 :5 32 32 32 :6 32 32 96 :7 128 128 128 :8 0 64 128 :9 0 128 160 :10 +black 224 224 224 :1 192 192 160 :2 160 160 128 :3 160 128 64 :4 96 96 64 :5 32 32 32 :6 32 32 64 :7 128 128 128 :8 0 64 128 :9 0 128 160 :10 +black colour 7 differs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted Monday at 01:01 AM Author Report Share Posted Monday at 01:01 AM On 5/3/2024 at 10:22 AM, kingraph said: For team logos - one color will be white and one black. Then you have 10 other colors you can use. 4 are unusable as they are used for the home/visitor banner colors. I messed up - the first color is transparent, so also unusable. So it's really 9 colors plus black/white. My bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted Monday at 01:09 AM Author Report Share Posted Monday at 01:09 AM On 5/4/2024 at 12:45 AM, smozoma said: 12-colour wolf pack logo, ready for importing to TM RED GREEN BLUE 224 224 224 :white 128 128 160 :2 64 64 96 :3 96 96 128 :4 128 160 160 :5 160 192 192 :6 32 32 96 :7 192 96 96 :8 224 32 64 :9 128 96 96 :10 192 32 32 :11 12th colour is black These are looking great even when I knocked off a color: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted Monday at 01:29 AM Author Report Share Posted Monday at 01:29 AM On 5/4/2024 at 12:50 AM, von Ozbourne said: I guess I'll post this here as a general note. My trick is to use photoshop to create an index colour image with about three times the allowable colours and the then use the colour table option to decide which colours to round up or down in order to adhere to the SEGA palette, but also maintain some sort of contrast when reducing to twelve including the default white and black. Still requires some manual drawing, but at least this way it's 90-95% of the way there. The other reason[s] for posting is that I used the version of the logo without the word mark. Is there a preference to which to use? I figure in the case of the Moose, Phantoms, Admirals, Ice Hogs, Thunderbirds and Roadrunners, at least they have versions of their logos that don't contain text and that would drastically improve how well they translate in 48x48 pixels, never mind tacking on the twelve colour restriction on top of that. Colours: -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black unused] 224 224 224 [white] 000 000 032 000 032 064 032 032 064 000 064 128 000 096 160 064 064 064 096 096 096 128 128 128 160 160 160 192 192 192 On 5/4/2024 at 1:58 PM, von Ozbourne said: Well shoot guys. I did up a few last night, but something wasn't feeling right. Slept on it and realized the problem. I was using the wrong number of colours. I remembered that the bottom 9-16 and the #8 spot are used for logo colours and #6 & #7 are for white and black and #2 & #3 are the Home team banner, #4 & #5 are the Away team banner, but that leave #1, which is, like many other assets, still for transparency. Shouldn't be too much of an issue to remove the one more tone. Some of these didn't even need the full allotment of colours. I edited the Moose entry already and will post the rest a bit later. I CAN'T BELIVE I MISSED THESE POSTS! I feel so dumb With regards to the text in logos, I agree, I have removed the text myself if I couldn't find a logo without text. Sometimes it's not so bad, like the Ice Hogs I say go for whatever you feel looks good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Ozbourne Posted Monday at 01:30 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 01:30 AM Couldn't decide on this one so I took a multiple choice page as well. All use the same 11 colours. emulating the gold border on the word mark. no gold border. just grey and white hybrid. gold border on the larger "Eagles" but not on the tiny "Colorado" Colorado -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black] 224 224 224 [white] 192 192 192 160 160 160 064 064 032 224 192 064 224 224 096 000 032 128 096 128 160 192 000 032 224 128 160 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted Monday at 01:35 AM Author Report Share Posted Monday at 01:35 AM Here's an alternative Admirals logo I found and used because the text was too much. I think it looks great And the ice logo (not asking for those here) was the name: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Ozbourne Posted Monday at 01:35 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 01:35 AM 3 minutes ago, kingraph said: With regards to the text in logos, I agree, I have removed the text myself if I couldn't find a logo without text. Sometimes it's not so bad, like the Ice Hogs I say go for whatever you feel looks good! Well now, I was looking at the version of their logo that was just the pig head, but I will say that the detail on the text looks really good here even with the limited resolution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted Monday at 01:38 AM Author Report Share Posted Monday at 01:38 AM Just to be clear -- though not posted, Hershey, Rockford and Milwaukee were previously done by me for other leagues: I'm keeping the OP updated as to what teams are left so we are not accidentally duplicating efforts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Ozbourne Posted Monday at 01:41 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 01:41 AM 5 minutes ago, kingraph said: Here's an alternative Admirals logo I found and used because the text was too much. I think it looks great And the ice logo (not asking for those here) was the name: Is that an older or alternate one? I got this directly from the AHL website. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted Monday at 01:43 AM Author Report Share Posted Monday at 01:43 AM 1 minute ago, von Ozbourne said: Is that an older or alternate one? I got this directly from the AHL website. Ooooh, that looks amazing. I'd go with that one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Ozbourne Posted Monday at 04:33 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 04:33 AM Ontario [not the province, but the city that was named after the province] -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black] 224 224 224 [white] 032 032 032 064 064 064 096 096 096 128 128 128 160 160 160 192 192 192 224 000 000 [unnecessary] 000 224 000 [unnecessary] 000 000 224 [unnecessary] Providence -R- -G- -B- 000 000 000 [black] 224 224 224 [white] 032 032 032 064 064 064 160 160 160 096 064 000 160 128 000 224 192 000 224 192 064 224 224 064 224 224 128 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted Monday at 04:46 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 04:46 AM Grand Rapids Griffins.. tough one, very busy and the outline is really thin.. 224 224 224 :1 192 192 192 :2 128 128 128 :3 96 96 96 :4 96 0 0 :5 160 160 160 :6 64 64 64 :7 0 0 0 :8 96 64 0 :9 128 96 32 :10 32 32 32 :11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted Monday at 05:30 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 05:30 AM Henderson Silver Knights 224 224 224 :1 0 0 0 :6 192 192 192 :2 160 160 160 :3 128 128 128 :4 96 96 96 :5 32 32 32 :7 64 64 64 :8 96 64 32 :9 128 96 32 :10 64 64 32 :11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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