Blitz 07 - Protection Lists

[smozoma]

Here are the protection groups.

(Done this) I will be posting the full draft order tonight, too, so you'll know exactly what picks you have.

(Done this) What I need from you right now is:

Your choice of your top 2 players from your first row. If one of them gets drafted, I'll protect the other one for you. (If one was already drafted, then I just need the one you want me to protect). Please PM me this information, with the subject "Round 2 Protection."

So, by the time the 1st round is done, we should also have all the 2nd round protection picks done, so when the 1.24 pick is made, we're actually done both the first and second rounds.

When the 1st/2nd round is done, then there will be a 24+ hour period where you can trade your picks/protection slots. The time period will be enough to give you a fair time to do trades, and synch up well with the day/night/work cycle, and will be at least 24 hours from when the last 1st/2nd round pick is made.

You can trade: Your 1st round player pick. Your 2nd round protection pick player. Any free round picks (3rd, 5th, etc). Any "protection slots" corresponding to rows 4, 6, 8, and 10 in the table below. Any player you will be protecting with a protection slot. Note that you can't trade your 2nd round protection SLOT, just the player you picked.

See the Trade Thread for more details on trading rules (limits, balance, etc).

Your protections from the other rounds will be done in secret. You will send them to me through PM. The reason it's done in secret is so there is no advantage to waiting for everyone else to protect first so you know what players are available. All the protection picks will be revealed at the same time: At the end of the 24+ hour trade period. You can send me your protection list and update it if necessary any time before the end of the trade period.

So, here is the timeline:

1. 1st/2nd Round:
   
   • People will be making their 1st round picks in the Round 1 thread
     
   • I need your 2nd round protection choices. PM me with subject "Round 2 Protection" if you haven't sent me this info yet.
     
   • You should be thinking about your other protection choices, and you can even send them to me if you want, but you can update them later if necessary. PM me with subject "Round 4-10 Protections". Use the reply option in the PM conversation if you need to make changes.
     

[*]1st/2nd Round Ends

• 24+ hour protection pick trading period begins
  
• Send me your final protection choices before the end of the trading period (under the subject "Round 4-10 Protections"). If I never get your choices, I'll just pick the players in the order they appear on the lines in the list..
  

[*]Protection Pick Trading Period Ends

• Using your choices, I take an hour or so to fill in the database with all the protection picks.
  
• I'll update the database with any other trades made (picks, players, etc)
  
• Round 3 starts
  
• You can trade normally. Any trades you made before count against the overall limit.
  

			
You protect one player for each row, unless you traded away your protection for that row or acquired another one.

You can even protect a player from a LOWER row if you want.  For example, if you are ANH and you would rather have Lowe
than Fetisov or Ridley, you can in fact choose Lowe for your 4th round protection, since he is from a lower (later) round.

(you can not acquire another protection for the Round 2 row)


ANH	2	(F) Mike Gartner ,	(F) Esa Tikkanen ,	(G) Chris Terreri 
ANH	4	(D) Vachslav Fetisov ,	(F) Mike Ridley 	
ANH	6	(D) Kevin Lowe ,	(D) Rob Ramage 	
ANH	8	(F) Alexnder Semak ,	(D) Brian Glynn 	
ANH	10	(F) Troy Murray ,	(G) Mario Gosselin ,	(F) Andrei Lomakin 


BOS	2	(G) Patrick Roy ,	(F) Wayne Gretzky ,	(F) Rod BrindAmour 
BOS	4	(F) Denis Savard ,	(F) Dale Hawerchuk 	
BOS	6	(D) Gerald Diduck ,	(D) Scott Niedrmayer 	
BOS	8	(F) John Cullen ,	(D) Sandis Ozolinsh 	
BOS	10	(F) Kevin Miller ,	(G) Guy Hebert ,	(D) Patrice Brisebois 


BUF	2	(F) Sergei Fedorov ,	(D) Scott Stevens ,	(F) Trevor Linden 
BUF	4	(D) Steve Smith ,	(F) Brendan Shanahan 	
BUF	6	(G) Mike Richter ,	(D) Bryan Marchment 	
BUF	8	(D) Darius Kasparitis ,	(G) Wendell Young 	
BUF	10	(F) Keith Tkachuk ,	(F) Zdeno Ciger ,	(F) Darrin Shannon 


CGY	2	(F) Mats Sundin ,	(F) Adam Oates ,	(D) Gary Suter 
CGY	4	(G) Ron Hextall ,	(D) Steve Duchesne 	
CGY	6	(D) Alexei Zhitnik ,	(F) Mike Ricci 	
CGY	8	(F) Joe Murphy ,	(D) Doug Bodger 	
CGY	10	(G) Ron Tugnutt ,	(F) Dallas Drake ,	(F) Dave Poulin 


CHI	2	(F) Jeremy Roenick ,	(F) Pierre Turgeon ,	(G) Felix Potvin 
CHI	4	(F) Vladimir Ruzicka ,	(D) Curtis Leschyshyn 	
CHI	6	(D) Matt Schneider ,	(F) Paul Ranheim 	
CHI	8	(D) Bruce Driver ,	(F) Sylvain Turgeon 	
CHI	10	(F) Brian Noonan ,	(G) Rick Knickle ,	(D) Jim Johnson 


DAL	2	(F) Russ Courtnall ,	(F) Gary Roberts ,	(D) Marty McSorley 
DAL	4	(F) Cliff Ronning ,	(G) Jon Casey 	
DAL	6	(D) Doug Lidster ,	(D) Michel Petit 	
DAL	8	(F) Brent Sutter ,	(F) Darren Turcotte 	
DAL	10	(G) Pat Jablonski ,	(D) Bill Houlder ,	(F) Colin Patterson 


DET	2	(F) Jimmy Carson ,	(F) Benoit Hogue ,	(F) Pat Verbeek 
DET	4	(G) John Blue ,	(D) Eric Desjardins 	
DET	6	(D) Eric Weinrich ,	(F) Bobby Holik 	
DET	8	(D) Dana Murzyn ,	(F) Dale Hunter 	
DET	10	(F) Michal Pivonka ,	(G) Frank Pietrngelo ,	(D) Ken Daneyko 


EDM	2	(F) Alexnder Mogilny ,	(F) Geoff Courtnall ,	(D) Gord Murphy 
EDM	4	(G) Kirk McLean ,	(D) Glen Wesley 	
EDM	6	(F) Paul Ysebaert ,	(D) Alexei Gusarov 	
EDM	8	(F) Greg Adams ,	(F) Glenn Anderson 	
EDM	10	(D) Sylvain Cote ,	(F) Andrew Cassels ,	(G) Dominic Roussel 


HFD	2	(D) Phil Housley ,	(F) Mark Recchi ,	(G) Tim Cheveldae 
HFD	4	(F) Alexei Zhamnov ,	(D) Fredrik Olausson 	
HFD	6	(F) Peter Stastny ,	(F) Joe Juneau 	
HFD	8	(D) Paul Cavallini ,	(F) John MacLean 	
HFD	10	(D) Jeff Norton ,	(F) Bob Carpenter ,	(G) Andre Racicot 


L.A	2	(F) Dino Ciccarelli ,	(D) Paul Coffey ,	(F) Doug Gilmour 
L.A	4	(G) Curtis Joseph ,	(D) Don Sweeney 	
L.A	6	(F) Owen Nolan ,	(D) Igor Kravchuk 	
L.A	8	(F) Nelson Emerson ,	(D) Sergei Zubov 	
L.A	10	(F) Alexei Kovalev ,	(F) Perry Berezan ,	(G) Daniel Berthiaume 


MTL	2	(F) Steve Yzerman ,	(D) Rob Blake ,	(D) Dave Ellett 
MTL	4	(F) Bob Probert ,	(G) Dominik Hasek 	
MTL	6	(F) Kevin Dineen ,	(F) Stephan Lebeau 	
MTL	8	(F) Brent Ashton ,	(D) Vladimir Konstantov 	
MTL	10	(D) Bob Beers ,	(F) Doug Weight ,	(G) Jeff Hackett 


N.J	2	(D) Ray Bourque ,	(F) Steve Larmer ,	(D) Al MacInnis 
N.J	4	(F) Valeri Kamensky ,	(F) Christan Ruuttu 	
N.J	6	(F) Geoff Sanderson ,	(G) Kelly Hrudey 	
N.J	8	(F) Nikolai Borshevsky ,	(D) Norm Maciver 	
N.J	10	(D) Greg Hawgood ,	(F) Mike Donnelly ,	(G) Mark Fitzpatrik 


NYI	2	(F) Peter Bondra ,	(D) Dave Manson ,	(G) Tom Barrasso 
NYI	4	(F) Joe Nieuwendyk ,	(F) Tony Granato 	
NYI	6	(F) Dave Gagner ,	(F) Wendel Clark 	
NYI	8	(D) Luke Richardson ,	(D) Frank Musil 	
NYI	10	(D) Darryl Sydor ,	(G) Darcy Wakaluk ,	(F) Mike Eagles 


NYR	2	(F) Eric Lindros ,	(G) Grant Fuhr ,	(F) Stephane Richer 
NYR	4	(D) James Patrick ,	(F) Shayne Corson 	
NYR	6	(D) Richard Smehlik ,	(D) Adam Burt 	
NYR	8	(F) Gary Leeman ,	(F) Terry Yake 	
NYR	10	(D) Kerry Huffman ,	(G) Jim Waite ,	(F) Gilbert Dionne 


OTT	2	(F) Tomas Sandstrom ,	(D) Kevin Hatcher ,	(F) Brian Bellows 
OTT	4	(F) Ron Francis ,	(G) Daren Puppa 	
OTT	6	(D) Mikhail Tatarinov ,	(F) Craig Janney 	
OTT	8	(F) Craig Simpson ,	(D) J.J. Daigneault 	
OTT	10	(D) StephanD Richer ,	(F) Keith Primeau ,	(G) Kay Whitmore 


PHI	2	(F) Jaromir Jagr ,	(F) Theoren Fleury ,	(G) Tommy Soderstrom 
PHI	4	(D) Jeff Brown ,	(D) Uwe Krupp 	
PHI	6	(F) Sergei Makarov ,	(D) Jyrki Lumme 	
PHI	8	(D) Dimitri Yushkevich ,	(F) Brian Bradley 	
PHI	10	(F) Bob Errey ,	(F) Mike McPhee ,	(G) Rick Tabaracci 


PIT	2	(F) Mario Lemieux ,	(F) Joe Sakic ,	(D) Larry Murphy 
PIT	4	(G) Mike Vernon ,	(D) Mark Tinordi 	
PIT	6	(F) Pelle Eklund ,	(F) Evgeny Davydov 	
PIT	8	(F) Kelly Miller ,	(F) Dirk Graham 	
PIT	10	(G) Vincent Riendeau ,	(D) Grant Ledyard ,	(D) Joe Cirella 


QUE	2	(F) Brett Hull ,	(F) Pat LaFontaine ,	(G) John Vanbiesbrk 
QUE	4	(F) Robert Reichel ,	(D) Steve Chiasson 	
QUE	6	(D) Teppo Numminen ,	(D) Petr Svoboda 	
QUE	8	(F) Joe Mullen ,	(D) Tom Kurvers 	
QUE	10	(F) Adam Graves ,	(F) Sergei Nemchinov ,	(G) Ken Wregget 


S.J	2	(F) Pavel Bure ,	(D) Zarley Zalapski ,	(D) Ulf Samuelsson 
S.J	4	(F) Chris Kontos ,	(F) Dimitri Khristich 	
S.J	6	(G) Andy Moog ,	(F) Ed Olczyk 	
S.J	8	(F) Vincent Damphousse ,	(G) Arturs Irbe 	
S.J	10	(D) Paul Stanton ,	(D) Yves Racine ,	(F) Gino Odjick 


STL	2	(F) Kirk Muller ,	(D) Chris Chelios ,	(F) Joel Otto 
STL	4	(G) Sean Burke ,	(F) Thomas Steen 	
STL	6	(D) Nicklas Lidstrom ,	(D) Jamie Macoun 	
STL	8	(F) Mark Janssens ,	(F) Peter Zezel 	
STL	10	(G) Robb Stauber ,	(F) Bob Kudelski ,	(D) Robert Dirk 


T.B	2	(F) Cam Neely ,	(F) Mark Messier ,	(G) Bill Ranford 
T.B	4	(D) Vladimir Malakhov ,	(F) Claude Lemieux 	
T.B	6	(D) Calle Johansson ,	(F) Ulf Dahlen 	
T.B	8	(F) Jari Kurri ,	(D) Jiri Slegr 	
T.B	10	(F) Dmitri Kvartalnov ,	(D) Mark Howe ,	(G) Craig Billington 


TOR	2	(F) Teemu Selanne ,	(G) Ed Belfour ,	(F) Petr Klima 
TOR	4	(D) Alexei Kasatonov ,	(D) Bob Rouse 	
TOR	6	(F) Steve Thomas ,	(D) Garth Butcher 	
TOR	8	(F) Andrei Kovalenko ,	(F) Neal Broten 	
TOR	10	(D) Steve Konroyd ,	(F) Valeri Zelepukin ,	(G) Stephane Fiset 


VAN	2	(F) Mike Modano ,	(F) Luc Robitaille ,	(D) Brian Leetch 
VAN	4	(D) Doug Wilson ,	(G) Don Beaupre 	
VAN	6	(F) Sergio Momesso ,	(D) Glen Feathrston 	
VAN	8	(F) Yuri Khmylev ,	(D) Doug Zmolek 	
VAN	10	(F) Derek King ,	(G) Glenn Healy ,	(F) Mike Foligno 


WPG	2	(D) Al Iafrate ,	(F) Kevin Stevens ,	(G) Bob Essensa 
WPG	4	(F) Dave Andreychuk ,	(D) Kjell Samuelsson 	
WPG	6	(F) John Leclair ,	(F) Bob Sweeney 	
WPG	8	(F) Rick Tocchet ,	(D) Charlie Huddy 	
WPG	10	(F) Patrick Poulin ,	(G) Jeff Reese ,	(D) Chris Joseph 

[LA Robbie]

sent. when does the drfat start up again?

[LA Robbie]

Just something that's confused me: I've told you who I want to protect in rounds 4,6,8 & 10.

If someone I didn't protect in round 4 is still available in round 6 (OK, probably unlikely, but, in theory) can I change my round 6 protection pick to the guy I didn't protect in round 4, essentially protecting the better player?

[RedWingDevil]

It's all done, boyo. I sent you my list.

[smozoma]

Just something that's confused me: I've told you who I want to protect in rounds 4,6,8 & 10.

If someone I didn't protect in round 4 is still available in round 6 (OK, probably unlikely, but, in theory) can I change my round 6 protection pick to the guy I didn't protect in round 4, essentially protecting the better player?

This is a good question.

The scenario does sound like a frustrating one (you had to protect a worse player than one still available in the draft), but there won't be a good time to switch the players, so I have to say, no, you can't switch them. Also, what if you switch them, then someone who already picked says, if that player you just dropped was available, I would have taken him. Then we have to roll back the draft, etc etc

[smozoma]

Full draft order:

http://blitz94.com/draftab/makepick.asp

The replacement coaches cycle through the order a bit differently, in order to try to even things out a bit.

[dcicon5148]

So for my understanding, if Gilmour, who I would never protect in round 2, goes undrafted in round 3. That means I couldn't protect him in round 4? But I would have to protect probably Sweeney who I drafted last year in round 6.

[LA Robbie]

This is a good question.

The scenario does sound like a frustrating one (you had to protect a worse player than one still available in the draft), but there won't be a good time to switch the players, so I have to say, no, you can't switch them. Also, what if you switch them, then someone who already picked says, if that player you just dropped was available, I would have taken him. Then we have to roll back the draft, etc etc

But if someone else wanted them in round 4 why didn't he pick them rather than wait for round 7? If he's my player still shouldn't I have the right to change my protect pick at the end of round 5, but not before?

[xdeathsbloodx]

Guys, forget rounds. Technically round 2 is ALL the protection picks. The picks aren't being made round by round.

[dcicon5148]

Guys, forget rounds. Technically round 2 is ALL the protection picks. The picks aren't being made round by round.

Yes. But you could still trade regular draft picks for protect picks. If I really wanted to protect 2 guys in round 2 I could trade my 3rd for an additional protect pick as an example.

[xdeathsbloodx]

Well your half right, we aren't allowed to trade for any other 2nd rd picks. And just because we can trade for more or trade them away doesn't mean they have to be an actual seperate chronological/numerical round

Edited March 28, 2012 by xdeathsbloodx

[dcicon5148]

Well your half right, we aren't allowed to trade for any other 2nd rd picks. And just because we can trade for more or trade them away doesn't mean they have to be an actual seperate chronological/numerical round

If not being able to trade protect picks is a rule it would be news to me.

[xdeathsbloodx]

Just 2nd row protects, look at the top of the table smoz put in the first post

[dcicon5148]

Just 2nd row protects, look at the top of the table smoz put in the first post

thanks for the info.... that's lame though

[xdeathsbloodx]

Yeah kinda, but it keeps some bigger name players open for rnd 3

[smozoma]

I admit, it's kinda lame not to be able to trade 2nd round protects, but the idea is that it gives a little more choice in rounds 1 and 3.

Once the 1st/2nd round is over, then there is a time period where you can trade anything, including protection slots.

One thing xdeaths pointed out is, you shouldn't really think of the protection picks as happening at a specific round time. It's more useful to think of it as though you are a GM and you signed a bunch of your players all at once, and then the rest of the draft happens.

[dcicon5148]

I admit, it's kinda lame not to be able to trade 2nd round protects, but the idea is that it gives a little more choice in rounds 1 and 3.

Once the 1st/2nd round is over, then there is a time period where you can trade anything, including protection slots.

One thing xdeaths pointed out is, you shouldn't really think of the protection picks as happening at a specific round time. It's more useful to think of it as though you are a GM and you signed a bunch of your players all at once, and then the rest of the draft happens.

Very helpful, Thanks guys!

[PRoBob38]

Ottawa protects Dave Manson.

[smozoma]

Please send your protections by PM

The trading period will end at 5PM Saturday, so make sure you get your protections PMed to me before then! You can update your protections any time before that (in case you trade stuff)

[PRoBob38]

Please send your protections by PM

The trading period will end at 5PM Saturday, so make sure you get your protections PMed to me before then! You can update your protections any time before that (in case you trade stuff)

I did that too. Just wasn't sure if it was needed to post the 2nd round protect on the forum.

[RedWingDevil]

Please send your protections by PM

The trading period will end at 5PM Saturday, so make sure you get your protections PMed to me before then! You can update your protections any time before that (in case you trade stuff)

I did send you a list; it was just a rather short one considering the team I had last season. And considering that I got Chelios and lost Muller, there isn't much I have worth protecting except Sean Burke.

[smozoma]

whoops, my PM inbox filled up.

I cleared some space, so if you tried to send a list and it was rejected,try again!

[smozoma]

Updated the website completely for the first 2 rounds: http://blitz94.com/draftab/makepick.asp

the additional players protected in the second round:

Gary Roberts

Jimmy Carson

Mark Recchi

Dave Manson