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Since there hasn’t been any more suggestions, for now, I’m going to move forward with the teams and solicit feedback once they are set.

Lots of gold here. For community member player ratings, I think nailing down which attribute-ratings each class has (to use Battlefield parlance) is critical otherwise guys will just want to use whatever is most effective, or in current gamer language, what's OP. I will need help from whoever wants to chip in on this and other areas. The NES Ice Hockey archetypes is what I was going for, just different titles, like you said. Guys might want to edit lines to pick what class they want before the game starts, or whatever they feel in the moment. Don't think this would slow the game down too much. Def do want to have a Canada and USA community teams for live events and stuff like that... Still have to find out what #'s and handedness for some guys, like @HABS, and others, who haven't popped in for a long time. Lot to figure out but it should be a fun process, and I hope everyone see's this as a community project, because it takes 4 people to get a game going and I don't see why that can't be reflected in how the ROM is updated. And let the record show that NES Ice Hockey was doing fat acceptance long before Lizzo ever showed up.

Interested in playing around with this for the 2on2 20th Anniversary ROM. One thing I don't think is possible is to change a player from a position to none if a line is set for C & LD, for example. Don't think it would be feasible, in game, to change that LD to LW.

Day 1 (SNES) - Saturday, September 20, 2025 Day 2 (Genesis) - Saturday, September 21st, 2025

I mean, there's just a lot more controller ports with the 4-way-play adapter and I don't want anyone getting ideas.

I just want everyone to love 2on2. Platonically.

As a super fan of Norm - he's my all-time favorite comedian - this is one of my fav hockey stories of all-time. Also, growing up in Philly, Dave Schultz was a legend.

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Sorry I skipped this one. Thought I'd answer it since I am trying really hard to not work this morning... Either it will be only 2 skaters from a franchise's history - probably the two players with the most points, goals or games played - duplicated throughout the ROM in the event on an injury. Or each franchise will have the top (40?) players from the respective franchise's history. Depending on feedback, it could go either way. If it goes to the latter, I will probably need some volunteers regarding ratings, etc. Will prob run into an issue where some players are sharing jersey #'s, which isn't that big of a deal.

Could just Flex-Seal-guy-slap a 20th anniversary logo on the original 2on2 ROM from 2006 and call it a day, in that case. I'm in favor bc it would make my life so much easier 😛

Would be great but it's outside the scope of this project. Yes, this makes sense. Leetch would normally be at LW since putting a skater at a different position other than LW or C would be something that's never been done. Maybe we can have D-men at their natural position. Would def change how face-offs work for teams like Boston and New York R. And thanks for sharing input about staters for those teams. If you notice, at the time I decided not to mix players from different era's, but that will probably change as well. However, if ratings aren't equalized, it will be interesting to see how things play out because players from earlier eras, especially pre-1990's, aren't considered to have the same foot speed / skill etc. Some great suggestions, though. You're right. In the first season from 2006, LW had more goal scoring ability and was a little faster and C had better passing ability and had more agility. I think adding personalities would be a nice wrinkle. Such as: power forward (Lindros) pass-first center (Gretz) sniper (Ovi) speedsteer (Bure) roving defensemen - if we add the position (Orr) If there are player archetypes, it would save me the effort of having to rate an enormous amount of players individually on a case-by-case basis 😬 For the weight bug fix, I'm 100% in favor. Blitz was my favorite league to play in and it just feels natural to have bigger players hit harder. For the Leafs, will def change the starters. Went too historical last time around with guys like Armstrong. He might be a big part of the Leafs franchise history, but players like him have little relevance to anyone under 80 years old. If we have full-franchise histories, then Kessel could be on the roster as well, but his player card will be a hot dog. Guys like Gilmour, who actually played more games for St. Louis, I think, are tricky. He did retire a Maple Leaf, though, and is a huge part of that era for them. Haven't decided if players can be on more than one team (ex: Gretz on EDM and LA). Would appreciate some feedback from the community on this. Far as wide-screen goes: I've not tested it on console but will probably just do two versions of the ROM. Y-button goalie control is a game changer but few leagues ever use it, so I'm not sure which way that will go. Thought it would be more widely adopted than it has been and that's a personal tragedy that I live with every day 😔 Typically only accept bribes in the form of CRT's, but will make an exception: smoz, #40, lefty with a wicked glove, as starting net-minder for Canada. Done.

Teams as they were from 2008 - looking back, having Fedorov over Howe on Detroit was a mistake. But if we have roster depth and can edit lines (the old game crashes due to a bug that is now fixed) we could still have Feds / Datsyuk / Lidstrom etc. on the roster.

Thanks for the thoughtful response — I’ll try to answer everything clearly. Frame of reference first: This ROM is based on the original 2on2 league ROM that started 20 years ago. It is not built around current-season rosters. The teams are all-time franchise greats. The goal is to keep teams iconic, recognizable, and balanced for competitive 2-on-2 play. Player ratings / clone ratings Ratings are intentionally cloned. This is by design. In a four-player league, the goal is to let skill decide outcomes, not AI advantages or wildly different attributes. When everyone is relatively equal, games come down to positioning, passing, timing, and execution — which has always been the spirit of the league. So while individual players are historically great, ratings are kept even to preserve competitive integrity. Player selection philosophy Yes — the intent is exactly what you described: Best or most significant players per franchise Some subjectivity is unavoidable, especially for players who split careers across teams Focus on iconic franchise identities, not depth or role players. Teams included / expansion teams The new ROM will be based on the 32-team structure: All major original teams are included Some expansion teams may be excluded Atlanta is likely to be removed Nashville and Columbus are not currently planned (no strong reason to add them at this stage) Two additional teams will be: USA Canada These will feature top online 2on2 coaches from the past 20 years that have played online, rather than NHL / International players. Widescreen Widescreen has not been used previously in this league. It’s not ruled out, but it would require testing and isn’t guaranteed. There are also legacy bugs to address first (for example, line editing crashes — a known issue from the original ROM dating back to 2008). Fighting Fighting is an incredible addition by chaos and may be added, but if included it will likely be disabled during exhibition play. It’s not a core focus of the project and would slow games down. CPU vs human play / 5-on-5 This ROM is still built first and foremost for 2on2 human play, including weekly exhibitions like “2on2uesdays” with players from Discord. (video here Playing vs CPU is still fun, but the ROM is not designed for that experience. A separate 5-on-5 version would be interesting someday, but that’s outside the scope of this project. Final clarification A 20-year anniversary ROM of the 2on2 league Built around all-time franchise greats Focused on skill-based, balanced multiplayer gameplay Not a modern-season or stat-accurate simulation ROM. Hope that clears everything up — appreciate the interest and the detailed feedback. I've attached the last big update rom so you can check it out yourself. *Keep in mind, a lot has changed in the community and in the NHL since 2008 or so when this rom was last updated.* 2on2_update.bin

This spring marks 20 years since the 1st, 2on2 tournament. To help commemorate those 20 years, I’m considering making an 20th-anniversary-ROM. Would like some feedback on: Which franchises to add / remove? Which staters for each franchise? All-Star, 2on2-Legends-team. USA and Canada (coaches would have to submit their handedness and jersey #)? If starting lines have equalized ratings, should the rest of the rosters be clones or different forwards with career-high / peak ratings? Wide-screen? Updated sprites for more accurate unis. Removing icing for fewer stoppages (suggested by Icestorm) Crash bug fixes for editing lines and other things. New splash screens / logos and other wrinkles. Edit / Added Logos for each franchise / which ones? Uniforms / which ones Could do a particular era Could do home unis one era and away team another Any other suggestions are welcome.

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I swore to never cross the threshold, 5 years ago. To never pass from 1994 posts to 1995 posts... But I am to break the great seal in honor of @chaos, for using the time stone to go back to the 90's and win the console wars for Genesis.

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Robo-Ovi Strikes again!

Does this mark the first time anyones actually edited visuals in EA / NHL Hockey? Great stuff!

Fight'n them demons within.

That was joke. EA has been voted the worst company in America several times and they've destroyed many of amazing game studios by running them into the ground with unrealistic expectations. So, just by using their current logo, not the old one, it is EA logo as a ruined structure. That's why I posted that pic of their current logo. Basically, what I'm trying to say is, having to explain your joke is the true mark of a comedy genius.

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