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2 things: first, the forum doesn't allow you to upload all file types. it only lets you upload files with approved extensions, and i guess gs0 isn't on that list. so, if you want to share a gs0 file, you need to ZIP it first, then upload the ZIP file. or, convince Evan to set up the forum to allow gs0 files (but i think it's best to just ZIP them, so they don't start taking up all of the hard drive space on the forum's server!). second, the gs0 files are not recordings of the whole games (and aren't mentioned in the tutorial so far ). They just contain the "state" of the emulator at the time you save it, like what the current score is, the current location of the players (if the game is still running), etc. You can use the gs0s to make highlight clips (which i'll be explaining the "adding replays" section of the tutorial in a few days -- basically, you do a save right after something interesting happens in teh game, then you can load the game from the quicksave and use the Instant Replay function in the game in order to see what happened), but they are not what you need in order to record a whole game. to record a whole game, you need to use the KREC files generated by Netplay/Kaillera.

Pretty much impossible without the source code, since it's changing the logic part of the game

Hey guys, I made a tutorial for recording online games to AVI files, which can be uploaded to YouTube. Here is the link: http://nhl94.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=4917 It's not finished yet. I'll keep adding to it over the next few days. When you play a game using the p2p version of Kaillera (even if you're doing client mode on a server), you can put a checkmark next to "record game". This will create a small .KREC file from which someone using the tutorial can create a YouTube video. So, basically, I suggest recording every game you play in the league! If you have a doozy of a game, you could upload the file to the forum and other people could watch the game, and maybe someone would feel like converting it to an AVI video. This would be pretty neat during the playoffs.

UPDATE 2022: This is suuuuuuuuuuuuuper outdated. These days the RetroArch emulator will save a .mkv video file for you if you hit the appropriate keyboard key to start/stop recording (I think it's the "Y" key). How to Make Game Movies UPDATE: Get the new recording emulator, gens re-recording (Gens11a.zip). The screenshots in this tutorial show an older version (Gens Movie 9.5b), but they are similar. This tutorial teaches you how to record a game played online and turn it into an AVI movie file. You can then upload the AVI file to YouTube if you want. How to add voice commentary may some day be covered. I've broken it down into a few sections: Download and Install Necessary Programs Record a Game to a KREC File Convert the KREC File to a GMV File Convert the GMV file to an AVI Movie Fix the Audio Sync Problem Edit the Movie Add Instant Replays Record Commentary to WAV File Add Commentary to the Video Compress AVI Down to Nice Size (~100MB) Upload to YouTube Download and Install Necessary Programs In this section, you download and install a version of Gens that can record to AVI, a couple video codecs, and a simple free video editor. Get Gens Re-recording from http://code.google.com/p/gens-rerecording/downloads/list (Gens11a.zip) [*]Unzip to a location of your choice. [*]You need to copy the kaillera DLL into the movie emulator's directory. Download it here: kailleraclient.zip [*]Get and install the Lagarith video codec. [*]Get and install the x264 codec. [*]Get VirtualDub [*]LAME MP3 Encoder Record a Game to a KREC File This section tells you how to record a game to a KREC file so that it can later be played back and converted into a movie. This assumes you're using Gens or Gens-netplay and are familiar with how to use the p2p Kaillera. To familiarize yourself with the p2p Kaillera see this thread: http://nhl94.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=4442 Onwards! You can get an older version of this, called "Gens Movie", attached at the end of this post, but you might as well get the above version. http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii144/smozoma/gensmovie95directory.png (it'll be called gens_11b.exe now) http://lags.leetcode.net/codec.html http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=213809 Above the table, it'll say, "Looking for the latest version? Download x264vfw_(blahblahblah)". Click that! (If your operating system is 64-bit, you could click "x264vfw64", and download the 64-bit version instead. It'll run faster) Install http://virtualdub.sourceforge.net/ Download the Release Build (you'll be redirected, then the file should start downloading) Unzip to a location of your choice. Follow the instructions here: http://users.tpg.com.au/mtam/install_lame.htm Don't worry about the last step about verifying the codec. It probably installed fine. You need the p2p Kaillera installed, though you can still record games playing on a server. Get it from the "Download and Install Necessary Programs" section of this guide, above. Put it in with the emulator .exe file: [*]Find someone to play against! [*]Load up Gens and start Netplay. [*]Start up a game, and remember to put a checkmark next to "Record Game" [*]Play your game, then shut down Gens as usual when the game is done. The game is recorded into a .krec file. The file might be in one of two places (it is inconsistent -- one game might be in the first place, the next might be in the other!). They will be in a directory called "records" that is either in the directory the ROM is in or the emulator's directory. http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii144/smozoma/wherethegameissavedto.png My ROMs are in "G:\Games\Emulators\Sega\Games\nhl94" and my emulator is in "G:\Games\Emulators\Sega\gens214", so the saves will be in a folder called "records" in either of those directories. Usually it's under the ROMs directory, but sometimes it's under the emulator directory. The file will be named something like 47916BE3_gdlseason3.krec. That hexadecimal number (47916BE3) at the start of the filename represents the number of seconds passed since midnight January 1st, 1970, so the most recently-recorded game will appear at the end of the list of files. You can rename the files and they will still work, as long as you keep the .krec extension. The KREC file is not a video file. It is basically just a recording of the controller button presses that were sent to Gens by you and your opponent while you were playing. You can't play it in a media player. Convert the KREC File to a GMV File We have to do a non-intuitive step here. Gens Re-Recording can't convert the KREC file (created by Kaillera) directly into an AVI, so we need to first convert the KREC file into a GMV file. To do this, we replay the game from the KREC file, and get Gens ReRecording to record the game to a GMV file. Later, we'll turn the GMV into an AVI movie file. [*]Select one of the videos, and click "Play." The recording will start playing. [*]Click on the screen, and press the Escape key in order to pause the playback. [*]Go to Tools->Movie->"Record New Movie" http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii144/smozoma/recordgamehostp2p.png http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii144/smozoma/recordgameclient-server.png Run gens_11b.exe Load the ROM you are going to use (so it knows where to look for the ROM and recorded files later). Start Netplay from the File menu (if Netplay isn't there, you need to put the Kaillera.dll file in the same directory as gens_11b.exe) Change the mode to "3. Playback" (instead of "1. P2P" or "2. Client"). http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii144/smozoma/netplayplayback.png http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii144/smozoma/recordnewmovie.png Name the Movie File as you see fit (important if you're going to keep more than one GMV file). [*]IMPORTANT: Put a checkmark next to "Record from now and make a savestate" [*]Click OK. [*]You will be asked to save a GST (state) file. Set the name appropriately (important if you are going to keep more than one GMV file) and click Save (or "OK" or whatever it says). [*]Unpause the game by pressing escape. The game will start playing back from the KREC file! In the Gens ReRecording folder, you should have your .gmv and .gst files. Convert the GMV file to an AVI Movie In this section, we use Gens ReRecording to convert the GMV game file to a lossless "perfect copy" AVI file. The AVI file will be really big (about 50 MB per minute or 500-600 MB for a 11-minute game), but later on, we'll edit out the boring bits and compress it down to a reasonable size. Once the game is done, hit ESC again to pause. Go to Tools->Movie->"Stop Movie" Go to File->Close ROM Close the Kaillera/Netplay windows. Load the ROM in Gens ReRecording. IMPORTANT: Go to Sound->Rate->44100. If you are not at 44100, your audio and video will not be in synch. Go to Tools->Movie->"Play Movie/Resume record from savestate" Use the "..." buttons to select the .gmv and .gst files you created previously. Ignore the "inconsistent" warning. Click "Play Movie" to start playing the movie. If nothing is happening, then maybe the emulator is paused... Hit the ESC key to unpause it! Ensure Tools->AVI Options->"Add Sound to AVI" so it has a checkmark. Go to Tools->AVI Options->"Start AVI Dump" http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii144/smozoma/startAVIdump.png You'll be asked to enter an AVI file name. You'll be shown a "Video Compression" window that allows you to select a video codec. [*]You can make it record as fast as it can by going to Graphics-> Frame Skip->0. On my computer (P4 2.8GHz from 2006), it takes about 5 minutes to record a 10-minute video. [*]When the game is over, go to Tools->AVI Options->"Stop AVI Dump" As just said, don't worry if the video is slow or fast or if the audio is choppy. The video will turn out to be the expected 60 frames per second with clean sound. Fix the Audio Sync Problem If your audio is out of sync (this happens if you record to AVI when your Sound->Rate is set to 22050 instead of 44100), there are are 2 ways to fix this: 1) change the video frame rate 2) stretch the audio. I'll just explain how to fix the video frame rate, since it's easier. Use VirtualDub to change the framerate: If you want to insert highlight clips, then also change their framerates to the same value you used for this video. Because your highlight clips are going to be short, it doesn't matter if their own audio/video sync is perfect – you need the clips to all have the same frame rate. (I haven't tried it this way yet, but I think it should work…) Edit the Movie [not done] Convert to 30 frames-per-second, 640x480 Open your video with VirtualDub.exe. If you have multiple parts, you can use File->Append AVI Segment to add other files to the end of the video. It'll try to load multiple files if they're numbered consecutively. [*]Next, we want to crop a bit of the video so it looks better. Click on the "resize" filter you just added to the list, and then click the "Cropping..." button. X1 offset: 16. X2 offset: 16. Leave the others at 0. Click OK. [*]Set the compression to Lagarith: Video->Compression..., find Lagarith lossless codec in the list and click OK. [*]Save as a new file: File->Save as AVI.... I usually call it something like "game1.30fps.avi". Since we increased the resolution, the file will be about 1.7GB! Cut out boring sections Now, if there are boring parts you want to delete (long pause when your cat knocked your drink over?), here's how: Save to a new file. IMPORTANT: You should only do this kind of editing with Lagarith-compressed video. If you try later to edit x264-compressed video, you'll have problems because you can only cut starting on "key frames." Add Instant Replays [not done] When replaying the games from GMV, you can use the F5, F6, and F7 keys (Quick Save, Next Save Slot, Previous Save Slot) to save up to 10 instant replays. You can later load those saves, and then record yourself controlling the instant replays directly to AVI. Then, you can insert those AVI clips into your video (Note: you can only join video clips using the same compressor (i.e. Lagarith). Record Commentary to WAV File [not done] This is where you get a microphone and record youself doing the commentary for the game. Later on, the commentary can be mixed in with the audio of the video, so you get the sirens, etc. Add Commentary to the Video [not done] Export audio from the movie using VirtualDub (to WAV file). Use an audio tool to combine the WAV files. Compress AVI Down to Nice Size (~100MB) [not done] Uploading a 500+MB file to YouTube could be problematic, so here we use the x264 codec to shrink the movie down. (Plus, I doubt YouTube supports Lagarith). x264 looks way, way better than DivX or XviD when compressing NHL94. Go to Video->Frame rate... Look at the value at the end of the 3rd option, "Change so video and audio durations match (59.9xx)" Write that number value into the 2nd option, "Change to _____ frames per second." You might ask: Why not just use the 3rd option? The answer is: because if you use the third option and then you try to insert highlight clips, you'll have a hard time getting the frame rates to match because the 3rd option uses more decimal places than it shows. Enable Video->Direct stream copy save Gens ReRecording records in 60 frames-per-second, so to bring it down to 30fps by eliminating every other frame, go Video->Frame Rate->"Process every other frame (decimate by 2)" We want to resize the video to 640x480. Video->Filters->Add...->resize. Aspect ratio: Disabled New size: Absolute, 640 x 480 Filter mode: Lanczos3. Open the file you just saved (or do this before saving it) Search to the end of the segment you want to delete. Then, press the right arrow key to go one frame extra. Press the "End" key to mark this as the "after the last frame to delete" frame. This frame will still be in the video, but not the rest that you mark to delete. Search to the start of the segment you want to delete. Press the "Home" key to mark this as the first frame to delete. Press "Delete" If you are editing a file you already saved to 640x480: Select Video->Direct stream copy to avoid doing the compression over again. Go into Video->Frame Rate and make sure it's set to "Process all frames" so you don't end up with 15fps! Open the video in VirtualDub. Video->Compression... Click on x264vfw - H.264/MPEG-4 AVC codec, then click the Configure button There are a couple options you need to use for VirtualDub: [*]Select Single pass - bitrate-based (ABR) in the dropdown and set Average bitrate (kbit/s) to 1280 if you want the video to be about 100MB for 10 minutes, or 2560 if you want it to be about 200MB. [*]Compress the audio to MP3: [*]Save as a new file. Upload to YouTube [not done] Gens_9.5b.zip kailleraclient.zip Audio->Full Processing Mode Audio->Compression... In the left list, find and click on Lame MP3. In the right list, find and click on 44100 Hz, 128 kbps CBR, Stereo. OK. Zero Latency: checked (in the Basic area) VirtualDub Hack: checked (in the output area) Find "Lagarith lossless codec" in the Compressor list. Click OK to start recording the video! Don't be alarmed if the video is slow or the audio is choppy, the AVI file will turn out fine! I don't bother, but maybe you could save it in the format "GDL3 - DAL 4 @ QUE 3 OT (2008-01-15).gmv" http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii144/smozoma/kaillerainemulatordirectory.png

I'm working on a tutorial for making videos. It'll be up tomorrow I think.

GMV is not actually a movie. It's a recording of the button presses from in the emulator. You need to then use some other part of the Gens movie maker to record the GMV into an AVI.

You can see it here: http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?date=01%2F17%2F...mp;service=page Click the "700K" link next to the MTL/ATL game. In the window that pops up, you can skip to the goal by clicking "play" to the left of Kostitsyn's name (2nd goal of the game). It was a good goal, but not in the same league as the Nash goal, not even remotely.

I have a Saitek P880. it's ok. i find the analogue sticks are a little too far, though (but they look to be positioned about the same as on a PS2 controller, which I've never used). Maybe the newer models are better: http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/gamepads.htm The 3 at the bottom look almost identical to PS2 controllers, except for the D-Pad. The top ones are more Xbox360-ish

That's PS 1 style

On the other hand.. They could just remove the NHL/NHLPA references from the game (like they did when they included it in NHL06 on the PlayStation), then release the source code, and I doubt it would cut into their sales at all. Mainly, they just have no reason to go through the trouble and costs of releasing the code. There's just no business incentive. If it occupied 2 employees for 2 weeks, it'd cost them around 5000$ just for the time.

That was incredible... Anyone can beat a couple D when they're going full speed, but he practically stopped, and then made fools of them all.

Unfortunately, I think a lot. 5 years ago, it might have been buy-able, but now, Nintendo is making money of old NES/SNES/Genesis/etc games. I can turn on my Nintendo Wii and go buy Blades of Steel for US$5, and that is like 5$ of almost pure profit because they already made the game years ago. Currently it looks like no EA games are available on the Virtual Console right now, but I'm sure EA is thinking about it...

Woo I made a list! Now, I just need to make the playoffs.

Roenick scored six goals taking a dump this morning.

I am furious that i made no-one's list.

Mark Lesser can't give us the source code. I don't think he works for EA anymore. EA owns it (as far as I know). With the source code, people could edit the game to their heart's content. They could add new functionality. There are websites online that teach how to program for the Sega Genesis. I took a course or two in university in which we programmed for the same CPU the Genesis uses (though I didn't know that at the time!). The ROM contains the compiled code. This is the low-level CPU instructions that tell the Genesis hardware what to do when you press the C button, what to draw to the screen, etc. The source code, on the other hand, is written in a way that people can read it and understand it. The compiled code says stuff like "add the value from memory location 4238 to the value from memory location 894032 and store it in location 9873. if the value in 9873 is greater than 7, then... etc" While the source code would say, "add the speed of the puck to the current location of the puck. if the puck location is now in the net, then...etc" (or rather, a person could look at the source code and understand that that is what it means). The first thing added would probably be a season mode. I would try to fix the "weight bug" so that the heavy players could check the light players. I'd like to see more statistics, like a stat counting checks by individual players. Maybe fighting could be added by copying the code from NHLPA93 (assuming they were to release that, too). Someone with AI experience might try to make the computer AI better, so it can score goals. Bugs could be fixed. Currently, all we can do is change the constant values in the compiled code (the ROM). For example, we can change the speed of the players, since it's just specified as a number. We can change the names of the players, since they are just written in the code. We can change some of the graphics. With the source code, we could change the actual logic behind the scenes, that makes things happen. "theoretically" we could reverse engineer the ROM compiled code into the source code, but it would be very hard. We can't see what the variable names are, so all these numbers in the ROM code.. we don't know what they represent. Plus, the source code would have documentation explaining what each section of the code does.

BHF, EA.. sebe could be a surprise, he's doing pretty well with a team he didn't even draft.

Even if Lesser still has the source code on an old diskette in a closet somewhere, EA undoubtedly owns the source code. it's not just about the trademarks : ) If we want the source code, we have to go through EA... We need to convince them to be cool like id Software and release the source, like id did for Quake 1,2,&3 (http://www.idsoftware.com/business/techdownloads/). Unfortunately, I think id released the source for those games in order to attract programmers to work for them, since experience working with Quake's code is still relevant. I don't think NHL94 is analogous, in that respect -- 68000 assembly isn't something they use anymore. They'd have to release it out of the goodness of their hearts, and I'm afraid the company is too big to do it. Enter Plan B. Queue Mission: Impossible theme song.

you bunch of whiners! I have a job, i play hockey, i watch Scrubs, and you expect me to do all the work! j/k Here ya go! two wins by kings greatly improved his chances gr81 won 5 in a row, but snoboarder is in freefall due to a wonky controller, so things are looking up for pill, unless snoboarder can fix or replace that controller. i won a game tonight, putting my whole division above .500, but I still need to win 9 of my next 10 to have a hope at a playoff spot. Another "if only i'd been in the other conference" year. .

Whoops, that was off topic. Yeah, DS version would be cool. I think you can already hack PSPs to play a Genesis emulator?

I think with the virtual console on the nintendo wii, they won't be releasing the source code there's money to be made. it really sucks, though.. i mean Id software released the source code for quake 1,2,&3.. can't EA release it for NHL94?

There are some guys on here who can score 100 goals in a game, 10-minute periods. I think my best ever was 36 goals with Quebec in a 20-minute periods playoff game, back when the game came out. I'm better at defense Do you play the Sega version, or the SNES version?

I can't figure out who the girl is... Looks a bit like Tiffany Amber Thiessen(sp?) It's the hight of the sig pic that is the issue, really. But I guess with the avatar pics and the user info in the left column, it doesn't really add any length to the screen.. so.. oh well. There have certainly been bigger ones.

Here's how things are shaping up right now. GR = Games Remaining W Need = Wins needed to make the playoffs if the current 8th-place guy keeps his current win% pace. % Need = win% needed to make... ditto Looks like I'm done, I need 10 wins in 11 games, despite already winning 4 in a row (damn Evan Division!) Guys in blue haven't necessarily guaranteed a playoff spot yet, but things look good.

I can't score worth beans with Buffalo. I like Roenick more because I use onetimers a lot, and he's just so smart for them. That sig picture.. a little on the large side