jer_33 Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 (edited) Looking for a list of franchise players, the cream of the crop (on the classic bin). How many are there? Where's the cut-off? 10, 12, 14? Any position, any player that you'd be thrilled to build a team around. 1. Ed Belfour 2. Patrick Roy 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. Edited September 12, 2012 by jer_33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jer_33 Posted September 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 List has to include the two goalie bombs (Belfour, Roy) and All-star defender Bourque. Any other defencemen make the cut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Due to the weight bug (light guys check hard and heavy guys are feathers) in Genesis, Ray Bourque is not an all-star. He has sick offensive capabilities, but he's so heavy that he falls like a feather. I'd suggest looking at the latest Genesis Draft League (GDL) draft results for who the top players are: http://www.nflpickempool.net/GDLDraft/DraftResults.php Also, on the bottom of this team ranking post, there is a player rating guide that accounts for the weight bug, among other things, which should be useful: http://forum.nhl94.com/index.php?/topic/13375-nhl94-team-rankings/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo Knows NHL94 Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 (edited) A lot of people don't particularly like Bourque because he's very heavy. Read up on the weight bug if you're unfamiliar with this being a problem in the Genesis version. I personally don't even see him as the best defenseman on his team as Sweeney is the best defensive-style defenseman in the league, and I prefer that style of player. EDIT: KinGraph beat me Edited September 12, 2012 by Bo Knows NHL94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jer_33 Posted September 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 I looked into the GDL draft results, and was surprised by how far Bourque slid. This bug would also account for Lemieux's slide. So in the weight-adjusted bin, both players would rate differently I assume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jer_33 Posted September 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 So in the classic bin, would there even be a defenceman on the list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 So in the classic bin, would there even be a defenceman on the list? Given that the first defenceman is taken late 1st round, early 2nd round...I'd say not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 I looked into the GDL draft results, and was surprised by how far Bourque slid. This bug would also account for Lemieux's slide. So in the weight-adjusted bin, both players would rate differently I assume. Yes, check out the SNES draft results (no weight bug there): http://sdl94.somee.com/Draft.aspx And Blitz, which fixes the weight bug, but also incorporates the checking stat to determine checking ability: http://www.blitz94.com/draftab/viewpicks.asp Note, there is a "keeper" policy in Blitz, so if you look historically at even numbered seasons (2,4,6), Round 1 was a protect, or keeper pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Kudelski Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 There should be two lists. One for Genesis Classic ROM, and one for SNES Classic ROM (which would be very close or the same as the Genesis weight-bug fix). I'll take a stab at a list for SNES: Franchise goalies: Patrick Roy Ed Belfour Franchise Defensemen: Ray Bourque Chris Chelios Paul Coffey Dave Manson Scott Stevens Phil Housley Franchise Forwards: Cam Neely Alexander Mogilny Jeremy Roenick Steve Yzerman Mark Messier Eric Lindros Mario Lemieux Pavel Bure Teemu Selanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carse Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 TO simply answer ur question like Bob did above for regular gens.bin leaving your 2 goalies in there: 1. Ed Belfour 2. Patrick Roy 3. Jeremy Roenick 4. Pavel Bure 5. Alexander Mogilny 6. Steve Yzerman 7. Teemu Selanne 8. Dino Ciccarelli 9. Theo Fleury 10. Doug Gilmour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Kudelski Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 OK maybe something more like this for SNES: Patrick Roy Ed Belfour Ray Bourque Paul Coffey Scott Stevens Cam Neely Alexander Mogilny Jeremy Roenick Steve Yzerman Eric Lindros Mario Lemieux Pavel Bure Teemu Selanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWingDevil Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 SNES/Blitz 1. Ed Belfour 2. Patrick Roy 3. Ray Bourque 4.Mario Lemieux 5. Eric Lindros 6. Scott Stevens 7. Al Iafrate 8. Steve Yzerman 9. Alexander Mogilny 10. Cam Neely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Kudelski Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Oh ya, forgot about Iafrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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