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January 29

Players were myself, @skills324, @IceStorm70 and @kidswasted.

January 29

On 1/26/2026 at 11:58 AM, CamKneely2 said:

Is this going to be an annual thing? I might have attended if I knew about it.

You gotta go!

January 28

19 hours ago, von Ozbourne said:

That was an epic cherry picking one-timer by Kovalchuk at the 1:55 mark.

Pretty sure that was @IceStorm70.

January 27

January 27

16 hours ago, smozoma said:

This is for what you'll try to achieve for the on-ice unis?

the hockey canada (player in maple leaf) logo should be the logo.

Correct. And the team logo for 2on2, Canadian Legends.

If we have space you can probably be goalie and forward.

January 27

Team Canada, please select your uniforms.You can have a of mix home / away eras as well.
- If you want to select a captain, that's cool, too.
- If you do see this in time, before the ROM is finished, I would appreciate your handedness and jersey # as well. Otherwise, they will be determined for you.

@smozoma @halifax @Sebe_The_Legend @Freydey @HABS @danTML7 @jer_33

I can't find everyone's user name from memory, but any other Canadian born, 2on2-player is welcome to chime is as well and it would be appreciated.

January 24

On 1/23/2026 at 4:35 AM, Pizz7043 said:

Just wondering what I’m doing wrong, I’m trying my hand at creating a custom rom hack and I did the logos in 8x8 fashion. Inserted my bmp file placed it in the correct spots the 6x4 layout. Can’t figure out how to get the logos to lineup as well as once I figure out the placement I get these horizontal lines.

thankshttps://imgur.com/a/dW450V6

Can you share a screen shot of the logo loaded properly in TM? It's difficult to make out what the issue is if I can't see the logo & palette in there.

If you need help with how to load the palette / offset for ice logos, let us know.

January 22

1st post has been updated. 31 teams are set. 3 are on the bubble with one slot remaining. Leaning toward Vegas as they have a cup.

Next up is logos: Use the most iconic ones for each franchise? Could also do the matchup-screen logo different from the center ice logo, it's on the table but I can't think of a good reason why.

Also, uniforms: Could use the best kits from each teams era, or combine ones from different eras. EX: Buffalo could have a blue / gold uniform for home but black / red (Buff-a-goat) for away.

EDIT: unis will be home whites for all teams unless someone has a good reason otherwise.

January 22

On 1/20/2026 at 2:43 PM, smozoma said:

If I may add to the "Gilmour belongs on the Leafs" case... (for my own curiosity/amusement..)

Will do.

Just have to add his player card...

Doug, "I'm your huckleberry," Gilmour

January 16

Since there hasn’t been any more suggestions, for now, I’m going to move forward with the teams and solicit feedback once they are set.

January 13

6 hours ago, IAmFleury'sHipCheck said:

For 20 year anniversary, I always loved the rom that you did with Community members.
If you have top 2 players on each team that all have the same attributes (correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's how it's currently configured).

My 2 cents:
A. How about adding 2 more players per team that are community members?

B. 2 ways to go with my next suggestion --

Of the community member players, have an attribute mix that makes a team specialize in a particular skill.

For example, you could have a CB squad, Weight bugger duo, balanced, speed, stickhandling, snipers, etc

Each player could have an indication of their skillset in their name, Last Name = Icestorm, First Name = Assist (profile = increased passing, agility, stickhandling)

Perhaps there would be a set number of profiles (around 5 or 6) so it doesn't get too refined

OR

2. What if you made 3 community members per team but each one fit an attribute profile similar to original NES Ice Hockey in the vein of skinny, medium, fat guy.

C. Have 3 goalies with 3 skill profiles that fit a skillset similar to following: Hrudey - low, Cheveldae - mid, Belfour - high)...

While default would always be medium tier, tournaments or online 2v2 Tuesdays, we could work in a system or flip to see what tier goalie is in net but both teams would have to play that tier for the game (just something to provide even further depth)

I would love to discuss more ideas, let me know what you think. I'm just kind of riffing on some things so no expectations that any of these would be actually implemented.

[I also understand that the goal is to have ALL players in league play be equally matched in terms of skill. My recommendations are more about lending itself to having options for future leagues and/or gameplay... basically, one rom to rule them all]

Lots of gold here.

For community member player ratings, I think nailing down which attribute-ratings each class has (to use Battlefield parlance) is critical otherwise guys will just want to use whatever is most effective, or in current gamer language, what's OP. I will need help from whoever wants to chip in on this and other areas.

The NES Ice Hockey archetypes is what I was going for, just different titles, like you said. Guys might want to edit lines to pick what class they want before the game starts, or whatever they feel in the moment. Don't think this would slow the game down too much.

Def do want to have a Canada and USA community teams for live events and stuff like that... Still have to find out what #'s and handedness for some guys, like @HABS, and others, who haven't popped in for a long time.

Lot to figure out but it should be a fun process, and I hope everyone see's this as a community project, because it takes 4 people to get a game going and I don't see why that can't be reflected in how the ROM is updated.

And let the record show that NES Ice Hockey was doing fat acceptance long before Lizzo ever showed up.

January 13

Interested in playing around with this for the 2on2 20th Anniversary ROM.

One thing I don't think is possible is to change a player from a position to none if a line is set for C & LD, for example. Don't think it would be feasible, in game, to change that LD to LW.

January 13

Day 1 (SNES) - Saturday, September 20, 2025

Day 2 (Genesis) - Saturday, September 21st, 2025

January 11

I mean, there's just a lot more controller ports with the 4-way-play adapter and I don't want anyone getting ideas.

January 11

I just want everyone to love 2on2. Platonically.

January 11

As a super fan of Norm - he's my all-time favorite comedian - this is one of my fav hockey stories of all-time. Also, growing up in Philly, Dave Schultz was a legend.

January 11

January 11

Boom

January 11

On 1/9/2026 at 2:56 PM, RT1977 said:

How many different players per team do you plan or would be willing to add to this Rom?

Sorry I skipped this one. Thought I'd answer it since I am trying really hard to not work this morning...

Either it will be only 2 skaters from a franchise's history - probably the two players with the most points, goals or games played - duplicated throughout the ROM in the event on an injury. Or each franchise will have the top (40?) players from the respective franchise's history.

Depending on feedback, it could go either way. If it goes to the latter, I will probably need some volunteers regarding ratings, etc. Will prob run into an issue where some players are sharing jersey #'s, which isn't that big of a deal.

January 11

9 hours ago, jer_33 said:

I think it would make the most sense to scrap the historical players and keep the players from the original rom (or added in expansion).

Could just Flex-Seal-guy-slap a 20th anniversary logo on the original 2on2 ROM from 2006 and call it a day, in that case.

I'm in favor bc it would make my life so much easier 😛

January 10

8 hours ago, Lazz said:

Fake shots?

Would be great but it's outside the scope of this project.

2 hours ago, Prince of WALES said:

Could you put Messier and Leetch as the top 2? I love Graves, but Leetch (along with Messier) is considered the greatest Ranger of all time.

EDIT: Other suggestions for top 2 players: Clarke and Lindros (Philadelphia) Stevens and Elias (New Jersey) Gretzky and Coffey (Edmonton) Sittler and Sundin (Toronto) Bossy and Potvin (Long Island) Hull and Federko (St. Louis) Fleury and MacInnis (Calgary) Selanne and Hawerchuk (Winnipeg) Peter Statsny and Goulet (Nordiques) Gordie Howe and Francis (Hartford) Dione and Robitaille (Los Angeles) and as previously mentioned, Messier and Leetch (New York).

Yes, this makes sense.
Leetch would normally be at LW since putting a skater at a different position other than LW or C would be something that's never been done. Maybe we can have D-men at their natural position. Would def change how face-offs work for teams like Boston and New York R.

And thanks for sharing input about staters for those teams.
If you notice, at the time I decided not to mix players from different era's, but that will probably change as well.
However, if ratings aren't equalized, it will be interesting to see how things play out because players from earlier eras, especially pre-1990's, aren't considered to have the same foot speed / skill etc.

Some great suggestions, though.

1 hour ago, smozoma said:

I recall (or imagined) there being a 2on2 ROM with the Center and Winger having slightly different ratings. I always thought that had some NES Ice Hockey potential, for composing your team for your play style. At the time, there was no Edit Lines Crash fix, so making everyone the same made sense. But with edit lines working, I think it would be neat to have some different player templates.

All players should be roughly equal in total skill, but have different "personalities" - speedster, playmaker, sniper, banger... It could take some playtesting iterations to get the right balance down.

Different personalities would/could mean disparate weights. This makes it important to consider: Will a Weight Bug Fix be added? Will the CB check be disabled?

Recommend leaving the B-check disabled (the usual when penalties are disabled. There's now a hack to enable B-check while penalties are off...)

I think you already took care to have the handednesses right, continue that. Righties have a minor advantage due to quicker spinorama, don't know if that needs to be balanced somehow with a minor nerf to some attribute...

Add Sundin, Gilmour, and Clark to the Leafs if they weren't on there before. Matthews if current players are also included. Kessel? Kaberle? Rielly?

Sundin should be a starter.

Can the widescreen patch be used on an everdrive and CRT? If not, I wouldn't do it, or would have 2 versions of the ROM. I might also not like it if it "works" on a CRT but is horizontally squished.

Instant goalie button? Reduced goalie control b-button timer? Expanded goalie roaming areas?

Put me down for Team Canada goalie, #40, Lefty glove, and I'll take a nice 6 rating on that glove if you don't mind

You're right. In the first season from 2006, LW had more goal scoring ability and was a little faster and C had better passing ability and had more agility.
I think adding personalities would be a nice wrinkle. Such as:
- power forward (Lindros)
- pass-first center (Gretz)
- sniper (Ovi)
- speedsteer (Bure)
- roving defensemen - if we add the position (Orr)
If there are player archetypes, it would save me the effort of having to rate an enormous amount of players individually on a case-by-case basis 😬
For the weight bug fix, I'm 100% in favor. Blitz was my favorite league to play in and it just feels natural to have bigger players hit harder.
For the Leafs, will def change the starters. Went too historical last time around with guys like Armstrong. He might be a big part of the Leafs franchise history, but players like him have little relevance to anyone under 80 years old.
If we have full-franchise histories, then Kessel could be on the roster as well, but his player card will be a hot dog.
Guys like Gilmour, ~~who actually played more games for St. Louis, I think,~~ are tricky. He did retire a Maple Leaf, though, and is a huge part of that era for them. Haven't decided if players can be on more than one team (ex: Gretz on EDM and LA). Would appreciate some feedback from the community on this.
Far as wide-screen goes: I've not tested it on console but will probably just do two versions of the ROM.
Y-button goalie control is a game changer but few leagues ever use it, so I'm not sure which way that will go. Thought it would be more widely adopted than it has been and that's a personal tragedy that I live with every day 😔
Typically only accept bribes in the form of CRT's, but will make an exception: smoz, #40, lefty with a wicked glove, as starting net-minder for Canada. Done.

January 9

Teams as they were from 2008 - looking back, having Fedorov over Howe on Detroit was a mistake. But if we have roster depth and can edit lines (the old game crashes due to a bug that is now fixed) we could still have Feds / Datsyuk / Lidstrom etc. on the roster.

January 9

3 hours ago, RT1977 said:

Just some general feelings for the Rom....

Thanks for the thoughtful response — I’ll try to answer everything clearly.

Frame of reference first:
This ROM is based on the original 2on2 league ROM that started 20 years ago. It is not built around current-season rosters. The teams are all-time franchise greats.

The goal is to keep teams iconic, recognizable, and balanced for competitive 2-on-2 play.

Player ratings / clone ratings

Ratings are intentionally cloned.

This is by design. In a four-player league, the goal is to let skill decide outcomes, not AI advantages or wildly different attributes. When everyone is relatively equal, games come down to positioning, passing, timing, and execution — which has always been the spirit of the league.

So while individual players are historically great, ratings are kept even to preserve competitive integrity.

Player selection philosophy

Yes — the intent is exactly what you described:

Best or most significant players per franchise
Some subjectivity is unavoidable, especially for players who split careers across teams
Focus on iconic franchise identities, not depth or role players.

Teams included / expansion teams

The new ROM will be based on the 32-team structure:

All major original teams are included
Some expansion teams may be excluded
Atlanta is likely to be removed
Nashville and Columbus are not currently planned (no strong reason to add them at this stage)

Two additional teams will be:

USA
Canada

These will feature top online 2on2 coaches from the past 20 years that have played online, rather than NHL / International players.

Widescreen

Widescreen has not been used previously in this league. It’s not ruled out, but it would require testing and isn’t guaranteed.

There are also legacy bugs to address first (for example, line editing crashes — a known issue from the original ROM dating back to 2008).

Fighting

Fighting is an incredible addition by chaos and may be added, but if included it will likely be disabled during exhibition play. It’s not a core focus of the project and would slow games down.

CPU vs human play / 5-on-5

This ROM is still built first and foremost for 2on2 human play, including weekly exhibitions like “2on2uesdays” with players from Discord. (video here

Playing vs CPU is still fun, but the ROM is not designed for that experience. A separate 5-on-5 version would be interesting someday, but that’s outside the scope of this project.

Final clarification

A 20-year anniversary ROM of the 2on2 league
Built around all-time franchise greats
Focused on skill-based, balanced multiplayer gameplay
Not a modern-season or stat-accurate simulation ROM.

Hope that clears everything up — appreciate the interest and the detailed feedback.

I've attached the last big update rom so you can check it out yourself.

*Keep in mind, a lot has changed in the community and in the NHL since 2008 or so when this rom was last updated.*

2on2_update.bin

January 9

This spring marks 20 years since the 1st, 2on2 tournament.

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To help commemorate those 20 years, I’m ~~considering~~ making an 20th-anniversary-ROM. Would like some feedback throughout the process.

Franchises
- ✅ Anaheim Ducks - IN
  - Ryan Getzlaf
- ✅ Boston Bruins - IN
  - Bobby Orr
  - Phil Esposito
  - Ray Bourque
- ✅ Buffalo Sabres - IN
- ✅ Calgary Flames - IN
  - Theoren Fleury
  - Al MacInnis
- ✅ Carolina Hurricanes - IN
  - Eric Staal
- ✅ Chicago Blackhawks- IN
  - Jeremy Roenick
  - Stan Mikita
  - Bobby Hull
- ✅ Colorado Avalanche - IN
  - Peter Forsberg
- ✅ Dallas Stars - IN
  - Mike Modano
- ✅ Detroit Red Wings - IN
  - Gordie Howe
  - Steve Yzerman
  - Sergei Fedorov
- ✅ Edmonton Oilers - IN
  - Wayne Gretzky
  - Jari Kurri
- ✅ Florida Panthers - IN
- ✅ Hartford Whalers - IN
- ✅ Los Angeles Kings - IN
  - Luc Robitaille
  - Dave Taylor
- ✅ Minnesota Wild - IN
- ✅ Montreal Canadiens - IN
  - Maurice Richard
  - Patrick Roy
- ✅ Nashville Predators - IN
- ✅ New Jersey Devils - IN
  - Martin Brodeur
- ✅ New York Islanders- IN
  - Mike Bossy
- ✅ New York Rangers - IN
  - Brian Leetch
- ✅ Ottawa Senators - IN
- ✅ Philadelphia Flyers - IN
  - Eric Lindros
  - Bobby Clarke
  - Bill Barber
  - Bernie Parent
- Pittsburgh Penguins - IN
  - Mario Lemieux
  - Jaromir Jagr
  - Sidney Crosby
  - Kevin Stevens
  - Evgeni Malkin
  - Tom Barasso
- ✅ Quebec Nordiques - IN
- ✅ San Jose Sharks - IN
- ✅ St. Louis Blues - IN
  - Brett Hull
- ✅ Tampa Bay Lighting - IN
  - Martin St. Louis
  - Shawn Chambers
- ✅ Toronto Maple Leafs - IN
  - Wendel Clark
  - Doug Gilmour
- ✅ Vancouver Canucks - IN
  - Pavel Bure
  - Trevor Linden
  - Daniel Sedin
  - Henrik Sedin
- ✅ Washington Capitals - IN
  - Alex Ovechkin
- ✅ Winnipeg Jets - IN
  - Teemu Selanne
✅ 2on2 National Legends - coaches have to submit their handedness and jersey #'s
- 🇺🇸 Team USA (2on2 coaches from the last 20 years) - IN
  - G - reserved
  - G - reserved
  - G- reserved
  - F - jesusplaysnhl94, #94, left handed
  - F - Kingraph
  - F - Icestorm
  - F - EA
  - F - Donnybrook
  - F - SOH
  - F - Angryjay93
- 🇨🇦 Team Canada (2on2 coaches from the last 20 years) - IN
  - G - smozoma, #40, left glove
  - G - reserved
  - G - reserved
  - F - HABS
  - F - Sebe
  - F - Freydey
  - F - jer 33
  - F - DanTML7 #4, LH, LD
🤔 Logos for each franchise / which ones?
✅ Updated sprites for more accurate unis.
✅ Removing icing for fewer stoppages (suggested by Icestorm)
✅ Crash bug fixes for editing lines and other things.
✅ New splash screens / logos and other wrinkles.
🤔 Uniforms / which ones
- Could do a particular era
- Could do home unis one era and away team another
🤔 Rosters for each franchise?
❌ ~~If starting lines have equalized ratings, should the rest of the rosters be clones or different forwards with career-high / peak ratings?~~
- ✅ Skaters and goalies will have ratings based on their career high seasons and stats, and take into consideration their abilities
  and playing styles. Forwards and goalies for coaches that are on Team Canada and Team USA will have equalized ratings.
❌ ~~Wide-screen?~~
- ✅ Limited feedback for wide-screen mode. Will be omitted from the 20th Anniversary ROM

Any other suggestions are welcome.

January 8

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