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ODDS TO WIN DIVISION

Eastern Conference

Patrick Division

Detroit - jrodimus -165

Toronto - Angryjay +160

Buffalo - Vocally Caged +170

Winnipeg - Hokkeefan +3000

Adams Division

Los Angeles - freydey -125

Vancouver - canadiensfan66 -125

Hartford - FPB +600

Philadelphia - Dcicon5148 +10000

Western Conference

Norris Division

NY Rangers - Swos +150

Dallas - Sebe +150

Quebec - Zalex +150

Boston - dexpsu83 +5000

Smythe Division

Calgary - carse -110

Edmonton - icestorm +1800

Chicago - Flasox -110

Montreal - Boknowsnhl94 +600

ODDS TO WIN CUP GENS A FALL 2011

CGY +170 X% carse

L.A +300 X% freydey

VAN +390 X% canadiensfan66

CHI +390 X% Flasox

DET +420 X% jrodimus

N.Y +600 X% Swos

DAL +660 X% Sebe

QUE +600 X% Zalex

BUF +725 X% Vocally Caged

TOR +600 X% Angryjay

MTL +2000 X% Boknowsnhl94

EDM +2300 X% icestorm

HFD +2500 X% FPB

WPG +9000 X% Hokkeefan

BOS +15000 X% dexpsu83

PHI +25000 X% Dcicon5148

This is one of the most wide open leagues I've seen with soo many high level coaches.

Sorry no odds for GENS B or C as I don't know much about alot of the coaches, if anybody in those leagues wants to give it a shot go for it.

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I'll do divisions, I guess I have the right to since I've played the majority of these guys at one point in time.

$50 on AJ in the Patrick (little skeptical cuz idk who jr is)

$100 on frey in the Adams

Life savings on Zalex (don't worry, that's less than the $50 I bet on AJ)

My dog on Carse.

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Ill take

Vocally Caged +170 patrick nice value

freydey -125 safe bet

Dallas - Sebe +150 lota good buggers with mods on this tm

Flasox -110 should be tight with carse another toss up

Cup Flasox +272

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Detroit - jrodimus -165

Los Angeles - freydey -125

Vancouver - canadiensfan66 -125

Calgary - carse -110

Chicago - Flasox -110

Why can't Americans use numbers properly? Everything should be +. You're just being manipulated by bookies who want you to bet more than $100 on a favourite :P

Bet $100, win $x plus your $100

Detroit - jrodimus +61

Los Angeles - freydey +80

Vancouver - canadiensfan66 +80

Calgary - carse +91

Chicago - Flasox +91

Here are the given odds as chance of winning


Team	Win $   Chance	Coach

DET	+61	62.3%	jrodimus
TOR	+160	38.5%	Angryjay
BUF	+170	37.0%	Vocally Caged
WPG	+3000	3.2%	Hokkeefan
TOTAL		141.0%        		

L.A	+80	55.6%	freydey
VAN	+80	55.6%	canadiensfan66
HFD	+600	14.3%	FPB
PHI	+10000	1.0%	Dcicon5148
TOTAL		126.4%	

N.Y	+150	40.0%	Swos
DAL	+150	40.0%	Sebe
QUE	+150	40.0%	Zalex
BOS	+5000	2.0%	dexpsu83
TOTAL		122.0%	

CGY	+91	52.4%	carse
EDM	+1800	5.3%	icestorm
CHI	+91	52.4%	Flasox
MTL	+600	14.3%	Boknowsnhl94
TOTAL		124.3%	

CGY	+170	37.0%	carse
L.A	+250	28.6%	freydey
VAN	+270	27.0%	canadiensfan66
CHI	+272	26.9%	Flasox
DET	+299	25.1%	jrodimus
N.Y	+500	16.7%	Swos
DAL	+500	16.7%	Sebe
QUE	+500	16.7%	Zalex
BUF	+500	16.7%	Vocally Caged
TOR	+500	16.7%	Angryjay
MTL	+900	10.0%	Boknowsnhl94
HFD	+1500	6.3%	FPB
EDM	+4500	2.2%	icestorm
WPG	+9000	1.1%	Hokkeefan
BOS	+15000	0.7%	dexpsu83
PHI	+25000	0.4%	Dcicon5148
TOTAL		248.5%	

Also, Habs takes home a 60% house advantage in the cup betting, since the total chance of winning per team is way over 100% ;)

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Easiest way is probably to assign %s, then to convert from % to + format..

example: 37.0% (carse cup)

p = 37.0% -> 0.37

+x = 1/p - 1

+x = 1/0.37 - 1

+x = 2.70 -1

+x = 1.70

then times $100.. +170

with 16 teams, the average % should be 1/16 = 6.25%

so the average + should be, by the above formula, +1500

but if you want the house to take a cut, maybe make it 6.25 x 120% = 7.5% --> +1233

to come up with %s for each team, maybe do something like how many cups you expect carse to win before dcicon wins

dc 1 cup

carse 92.5 cups (by 37%/0.4% from the table)

then assign other people a number of cups relative these two..

then add up all the cups, and for each player, divide their number of cups by the total number of cups to get %s for each coach

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"Why can't Americans use numbers properly?"

Habs, location: Toronto

AYE SO CONFUSO. Unless there's a Toronto in Iowa or some other state nobody even knows about.

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hahahaha, who's good?!?!?!?!

Toronto, Illinois, located south of Springfield, Illinois and to the west of Lake Springfield

Toronto, Indiana

Toronto, Iowa

Toronto, Kansas

Toronto, Missouri

Toronto, Ohio

Toronto, South Dakota

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"Why can't Americans use numbers properly?"

Habs, location: Toronto

AYE SO CONFUSO. Unless there's a Toronto in Iowa or some other state nobody even knows about.

I just mean he's using American style odds instead of sensible ones (ones not expressed as a discontinuous function) : )

hahahaha, who's good?!?!?!?!

Toronto, Illinois, located south of Springfield, Illinois and to the west of Lake Springfield

Toronto, Indiana

Toronto, Iowa

Toronto, Kansas

Toronto, Missouri

Toronto, Ohio

Toronto, South Dakota

Damn, what are the ODDS of that. ba dum, tchhh ;)

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Toronto, Iowa on wikipedia:

"According to the United States Census Bureau, the city has a total area of 0.2 square miles (0.5 km²), all of it land.

As of the census[3] of 2000, there were 134 people, 51 households, and 41 families residing in the city. The population density was 728.6 people per square mile (287.4/km²). There were 55 housing units at an average density of 299.1 per square mile (118.0/km²). The racial makeup of the city was 100.00% White. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0.75% of the population.

There were 51 households out of which 39.2% had children under the age of 18 living with them, 72.5% were married couples living together, 5.9% had a female householder with no husband present, and 19.6% were non-families. 19.6% of all households were made up of individuals and 5.9% had someone living alone who was 65 years of age or older. The average household size was 2.63 and the average family size was 3.00.

In the city the population was spread out with 24.6% under the age of 18, 10.4% from 18 to 24, 22.4% from 25 to 44, 31.3% from 45 to 64, and 11.2% who were 65 years of age or older. The median age was 42 years. For every 100 females there were 127.1 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 114.9 males.

The median income for a household in the city was $27,500, and the median income for a family was $27,500. Males had a median income of $22,188 versus $13,125 for females. The per capita income for the city was $13,702. There were 5.0% of families and 6.3% of the population living below the poverty line, including 7.7% of under eighteens and none of those over 64"

I say we all move there when we retire.

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GENS A

ODDS TO WIN DIVISION

Eastern Conference

Patrick Division

Detroit - jrodimus -165

Toronto - Angryjay +160

Buffalo - Vocally Caged +170

Winnipeg - Hokkeefan +3000

Adams Division

Los Angeles - freydey -125

Vancouver - canadiensfan66 -125

Hartford - FPB +600

Philadelphia - Dcicon5148 +10000

Western Conference

Norris Division

NY Rangers - Swos +150

Dallas - Sebe +150

Quebec - Zalex +150

Boston - dexpsu83 +5000

Smythe Division

Calgary - carse -110

Edmonton - icestorm +1800

Chicago - Flasox -110

Montreal - Boknowsnhl94 +600

ODDS TO WIN CUP GENS A FALL 2011

Calgary - carse +170

Los Angeles - freydey +250

Vancouver - canadiensfan66 +270

Chicago - Flasox +272

Detroit - jrodimus +299

NY Rangers - Swos +500

Dallas - Sebe +500

Quebec - Zalex +500

Buffalo - Vocally Caged +500

Toronto - Angryjay +500

Montreal - Boknowsnhl94 +900

Hartford - FPB +1500

Edmonton - icestorm +4500

Winnipeg - Hokkeefan +9000

Boston - dexpsu83 +15000

Philadelphia - Dcicon5148 +25000

This is one of the most wide open leagues I've seen with soo many high level coaches.

Sorry no odds for GENS B or C as I don't know much about alot of the coaches, if anybody in those leagues wants to give it a shot go for it.

no offence guys but shouldnt vc and bo be down here with the rest of us bums ? and jrod hasnt played in ages and hes a favorite to win? hopefully jrod pulls it out cause hes one of the better dudes around here and icestorm wayyyyy down here to? I hope us bums take out some more favorites again.

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its not toronto ,its toronta,there basically american

I call BS on that. I was there a couple years ago, they use FAKE Heinz ketchup, made in Canada... not Pittsburgh. Tasted awful. My opinion of Toronto will always be tainted because of that crap.

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no offence guys but shouldnt vc and bo be down here with the rest of us bums ? and jrod hasnt played in ages and hes a favorite to win? hopefully jrod pulls it out cause hes one of the better dudes around here and icestorm wayyyyy down here to? I hope us bums take out some more favorites again.

vc is up there because hes got buffalo, and is capable of real good seasons and real bad seasons you never know what u gonna get. bo im not sure... icestorm way down there cuz its edm but actually they do got klima so they aint that bad prolly needs adjusting.

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LMAO

house always wins!

sweet breakdown smoz.

yah I guess cup odds should be much higher nums. Division odds are close to 100.

Just a note on Vegas odds as I understand them: They don't necessarily reflect what the chances of a team winning are, but rather how the betting action will take place, in an attempt to get some even action. For example, let's say the "true" odds are that Carse w/ CAL and JRod w/ DET to win the cup are the same, and you set the line at +100 each. The public, not as familiar with JRod because he wasn't in the last few classic tourneys and also riding on Carse's 3 championships, start to bet money on Carse. The line would adjust down for Carse to -110 (or +91 for Smoz :) ). Now, the odds go Carse -110, JRod +100...etc, until action starts moving away from Carse.

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Just a note on Vegas odds as I understand them: They don't necessarily reflect what the chances of a team winning are, but rather how the betting action will take place, in an attempt to get some even action. For example, let's say the "true" odds are that Carse w/ CAL and JRod w/ DET to win the cup are the same, and you set the line at +100 each. The public, not as familiar with JRod because he wasn't in the last few classic tourneys and also riding on Carse's 3 championships, start to bet money on Carse. The line would adjust down for Carse to -110 (or +91 for Smoz :) ). Now, the odds go Carse -110, JRod +100...etc, until action starts moving away from Carse.

I predict carse puts me out rd 1 and then he gets upset after that ,cause his head is too big and he keeps falling off his pc chair

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Just a note on Vegas odds as I understand them: They don't necessarily reflect what the chances of a team winning are, but rather how the betting action will take place, in an attempt to get some even action. For example, let's say the "true" odds are that Carse w/ CAL and JRod w/ DET to win the cup are the same, and you set the line at +100 each. The public, not as familiar with JRod because he wasn't in the last few classic tourneys and also riding on Carse's 3 championships, start to bet money on Carse. The line would adjust down for Carse to -110 (or +91 for Smoz :) ). Now, the odds go Carse -110, JRod +100...etc, until action starts moving away from Carse.

yes this is very true. Public betting moves the lines, opening line is just oddsmakers putting up lines to get most money on both sides so that house wins off vig juice.

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Just a note on Vegas odds as I understand them: They don't necessarily reflect what the chances of a team winning are, but rather how the betting action will take place, in an attempt to get some even action. For example, let's say the "true" odds are that Carse w/ CAL and JRod w/ DET to win the cup are the same, and you set the line at +100 each. The public, not as familiar with JRod because he wasn't in the last few classic tourneys and also riding on Carse's 3 championships, start to bet money on Carse. The line would adjust down for Carse to -110 (or +91 for Smoz :) ). Now, the odds go Carse -110, JRod +100...etc, until action starts moving away from Carse.

Yeah, I get that (noticed the odds changing at a horse race..), I just think the minus notation is weird and unnecessary, and the %s give a better indication of what you're betting.

Considering the odds as % makes more sense to me, even if they are fudged to ensure they reflect the betting patterns and projected house profit, not the event reality. If it says Carse has a +170, and I convert that to 37%, and I think he has say a 25% chance of winning, then I wouldn't bet on it, but if I think he's closer to 50%, then I'd take it. If I just see +170, what the heck does that mean.. :D (although actually the +s are not that hard to understand, but the minuses are not intuitive)

Icestorm at 2.2%, I'd put a dollar on that. EDM isn't *that* bad.

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Icestorm at 2.2%, I'd put a dollar on that. EDM isn't *that* bad.

Word, Edmonton is sneaky good, a few years ago i had the best record in the league with them before pulling out of the playoffs.

This was back when i was good and such.

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Adjusted odds

CGY +170 X% carse

L.A +300 X% freydey

VAN +390 X% canadiensfan66

CHI +390 X% Flasox

DET +420 X% jrodimus

N.Y +600 X% Swos

DAL +660 X% Sebe

QUE +600 X% Zalex

BUF +725 X% Vocally Caged

TOR +600 X% Angryjay

MTL +2000 X% Boknowsnhl94

EDM +2300 X% icestorm

HFD +2500 X% FPB

WPG +9000 X% Hokkeefan

BOS +15000 X% dexpsu83

PHI +25000 X% Dcicon5148

and AJ enough with the "woah is me, im so bad now from rust and im going to suck but in reality i think im the greatest and will beat everybody in this league easily" in every post...

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for comparison this is pinnacles current NHL odds

ODDS TO WIN 2011/12 STANLEY CUP

101 Vancouver Canucks +740

102 Pittsburgh Penguins +815

103 Philadelphia Flyers +1085

104 Washington Capitals +808

105 Boston Bruins +1085

106 Detroit Red Wings +1300

107 San Jose Sharks +1300

108 Chicago Blackhawks +1515

109 Los Angeles Kings +1677

110 Tampa Bay Lightning +1731

111 Edmonton Oilers +2697

112 Buffalo Sabres +1839

113 Montreal Canadiens +2020

114 Anaheim Ducks +2697

115 New Jersey Devils +2697

116 New York Rangers +3237

117 Nashville Predators +3237

118 Carolina Hurricanes +4313

119 Calgary Flames +3856

120 Dallas Stars +4313

121 Phoenix Coyotes +4313

122 St Louis Blues +5391

123 Toronto Maple Leafs +6468

124 Winnipeg Jets +6468

125 Columbus Blue Jackets +7542

126 Colorado Avalanche +7542

127 Minnesota Wild +7542

128 Ottawa Senators +8620

129 New York Islanders +10772

130 Florida Panthers +10772

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and AJ enough with the "woah is me, im so bad now from rust and im going to suck but in reality i think im the greatest and will beat everybody in this league easily" in every post...

seconded

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Word, Edmonton is sneaky good, a few years ago i had the best record in the league with them before pulling out of the playoffs.

This was back when i was good and such.

Speaking of sneaky good teams, when will you finish the writeups for Quebec and Washington? :(

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