HalHawkins Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) Just wanted to introduce myself. I've created a new series of events called the Retro World Series. The big Main Event at the end of the year will have an NHL '94 tournament. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. 01/21/2016Today, Hal Hawkins announced the first inaugural season of the Retro World Series. There will tournaments held across the country at various events as Satellite Tournament with the season finishing off at the Main Event on August 11-14 in Houston, TX (Thursday-Sunday). "I hope to create an opportunity for recreational and serious retro gamers alike to be able to take part in an event that's both fun and competitive," said Tournament Director Hawkins. "The retro gaming community has grown by leaps and bounds over the past few years, and the Retro World Series wants to give this community the ability to enjoy retro games throughout the year with a great, big finale at the end." The Main Event will feature 12 versus tournaments for Atari, NES, SNES, and Sega Genesis. The Satellite Events will consist of high score, speed run, and versus tournaments.Players who compete in the events will earn points towards the Player of the Year award with a big cash prize awarded at the end of the Main Event to the winner. The Satellite Tournaments will be free to enter with prizes awarded to the winner and runner up. The winner also receives an entry into the Main Event tournament of their choice. Gameplay at the Satellite Tournaments will be recorded and uploaded after each event. The Main Event will be a $26 tournament entry. Cash prizes will be awarded in the Main Event, including trophies to each tournament winner. The Main Event will also be live streamed. There will be vendors and free play arcades at the Main Event, so guests and spectators are invited to join as well. If you're an interested gamer, vendor, sponsor, or just want to come watch, visit www.retroworldseries.com to get more information and sign up. Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/retroworldseriesTwitter: @RetroWrldSeries Website: www.retroworldseries.com Hal HawkinsTournament Director(979) 224-2660hal@retroworldseries.com ----- smozoma: here is additional links/info Game rules: http://retroworldseries.com/2016-season/main-event/tournaments-2/ Schedule: http://retroworldseries.com/2016-season/main-event/ Prize amounts: http://retroworldseries.com/2016-season/prizes/(top 8 get prizes) You can enter multiple tournaments, so if you want to be in the RBI baseball or whatever tourney, too, you can, although you pay for each tourney If you volunteer as a judge, you get food and a free entry into one tourney Edited January 25, 2016 by smozoma linked to site, highlighted a couple main details (date, cost) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutus Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 So, if I'm reading this correct, Satellite events are not required for the Main Event in Houston, but do enable you to win a free entry/extra cash prizes? Or do you need to qualify for the Main Event down in Houston? I've got a brother that lives down in the Houston 'burbs, and I'd consider a trip to visit him and catch some cool NHL '94. Not sure I'd be able to get to any of the Satellite events, especially if they aren't games I'm familiar with! Thx for inviting us either way bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalHawkins Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 So, if I'm reading this correct, Satellite events are not required for the Main Event in Houston, but do enable you to win a free entry/extra cash prizes? Or do you need to qualify for the Main Event down in Houston? I've got a brother that lives down in the Houston 'burbs, and I'd consider a trip to visit him and catch some cool NHL '94. Not sure I'd be able to get to any of the Satellite events, especially if they aren't games I'm familiar with! Thx for inviting us either way bud. You don't have to play in the Satellites to enter the Main Event. The Satellites do allow you to win prizes, win entries, and earn points towards the POY award which has a cash prize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Real nice... Too bad the coin toss rule is there. I believe team selection should be anything-goes like in MLG, and a limit could be added for how many times a player picks a certain team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Nice! I'd rethink auto goalies to manual, because that can get brutal. I'd be down for all the Genesis events (Road Rash, SFII and '94)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalHawkins Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Nice! I'd rethink auto goalies to manual, because that can get brutal. I'd be down for all the Genesis events (Road Rash, SFII and '94)! I definitely get your point there. That's certainly worth considering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tru Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 oh, yeah. NO WAY on the auto goalies. that is for amateurs and newcomers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HABS Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Where's badnews baseball at?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalHawkins Posted January 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Where's badnews baseball at?! LOL Can't have them all in one year. The great thing about retro gaming is there's literally hundreds of good ones to choose from, so if this is successful this year, we can keep adding new games year after year. Bad News is on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halifax Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Nice website bud. You should add King of '94 West to the tourney schedule. We just completed it over the weekend. We had about 30 buds there playing NHL'94 for sega and SNES. kingof94.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 This sounds neat. So the idea is kind of that you go and play all the games (or as many as you want) and try to get the best overall score/rating? Although I guess that's $26 per game you want to play? Can you break down how the 94 tourney works? I'm guessing that, based on the 45 minute time slots on the two elimination days, the round robin narrows it down to 64, then it goes down to 8, the the final 8 play on the last day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Nice website bud. You should add King of '94 West to the tourney schedule. We just completed it over the weekend. We had about 30 buds there playing NHL'94 for sega and SNES. kingof94.com They'd have to allow our triple elimination format, unless we want to go single elim. "The satellite tournaments will feature single elimination versus tournaments " Although actually... I suppose the winner of the last game before the loser bracket guy comes back in is the single elimination winner, so we could actually do both at once.. In other words, the last undefeated player wins the World Series prize, and then we continue the triple elim for the King of 94 prize. Works fine! Hmm except that our team choice method is someone picks both teams, which isn't how the World Series rules are. But we're doing it the Madison Tecmo Bowl way, so I'm confused because the Madison Tecmo Bowl is a satellite event, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalHawkins Posted January 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 They'd have to allow our triple elimination format, unless we want to go single elim. "The satellite tournaments will feature single elimination versus tournaments " Although actually... I suppose the winner of the last game before the loser bracket guy comes back in is the single elimination winner, so we could actually do both at once.. In other words, the last undefeated player wins the World Series prize, and then we continue the triple elim for the King of 94 prize. Works fine! Hmm except that our team choice method is someone picks both teams, which isn't how the World Series rules are. But we're doing it the Madison Tecmo Bowl way, so I'm confused because the Madison Tecmo Bowl is a satellite event, too. The Satellites events are not restricted to a specific format. The difference between Tecmo Madison and the rest of our events is that we are partnering with Tecmo Madison to make it a Satellite event. We have no intention of changing what they do. The other events are being hosted by the RWS at various conventions in large booths we've rented. Since we are having three at each convention, and each convention is only two days long, we are restricted due to time constraints on the format we can have. Tecmo Madison is an established tournament dedicated to one game that lasts all day, so they are fully capable of having the format that best suits them. For example, if we were to partner with King of 94 to make it a Satellite event, there would be no change to its format at all. As far as the 94 tournament at the Main Event, there will be a group round robin of four players in each group. Each player in a group will play each other once. The top two in each group will advance to the single elimination bracket. The semifinals and finals (the last 4 players) will play on that Sunday when all of the semis and finals will be played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 The Satellites events are not restricted to a specific format. The difference between Tecmo Madison and the rest of our events is that we are partnering with Tecmo Madison to make it a Satellite event. We have no intention of changing what they do. The other events are being hosted by the RWS at various conventions in large booths we've rented. Since we are having three at each convention, and each convention is only two days long, we are restricted due to time constraints on the format we can have. Tecmo Madison is an established tournament dedicated to one game that lasts all day, so they are fully capable of having the format that best suits them. For example, if we were to partner with King of 94 to make it a Satellite event, there would be no change to its format at all. As far as the 94 tournament at the Main Event, there will be a group round robin of four players in each group. Each player in a group will play each other once. The top two in each group will advance to the single elimination bracket. The semifinals and finals (the last 4 players) will play on that Sunday when all of the semis and finals will be played. OK, cool that existing tourneys can manage their format How many players are in each round robin group? Is it 8 players in each round robin group, top 2 make it? Elimination day 1 starts with 16 players, and 2 rounds are played, bringing it down to 4 players, then the last day is 2 more rounds to crown a champ? I'm fuzzy on the team selection rules. Flip a coin and you can choose to be home/away or choose your team first. Does this mean the person who picks their team first can pick any team, and the 2nd person can pick any other team? (ie not allowed to pick the same team) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalHawkins Posted January 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 OK, cool that existing tourneys can manage their format How many players are in each round robin group? Is it 8 players in each round robin group, top 2 make it? Elimination day 1 starts with 16 players, and 2 rounds are played, bringing it down to 4 players, then the last day is 2 more rounds to crown a champ? I'm fuzzy on the team selection rules. Flip a coin and you can choose to be home/away or choose your team first. Does this mean the person who picks their team first can pick any team, and the 2nd person can pick any other team? (ie not allowed to pick the same team) For example, if 64 people sign up for the NHL 94 tournament, then the group round would consist of 16 groups of 4 players. The top 2 in each group would move on to the single elimination bracket, so the 1st round of the elimination bracket would be Round of 32. With the coin flip, most often the winner will choose to select the team rather than home/away, but if you do win the coin flip, you do get first choice in team or to be home/away. You can't pick the same team. So if you and I played, and I won the coin flip, I'd choose to select my team first (e.g. Penguins). Then you get to choose who is home or away and then your team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tru Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 advantage: coin flip loser, by far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 advantage: coin flip loser, by far. I dunno, if you win and say you're Home, then really the other guy needs to pick DET because they are strong away, then the home guy can pick CHI, MTL, VAN... Seems like being home is a big advantage, other than the fact you're playing vs DET. No? In another thread where Raph did the math, it seemed like the home team basically has a 5% advantage. More than anything, it's just kind of a dull way of doing it because there's no variety, because the teams are not meant to be balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalHawkins Posted January 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 I dunno, if you win and say you're Home, then really the other guy needs to pick DET because they are strong away, then the home guy can pick CHI, MTL, VAN... Seems like being home is a big advantage, other than the fact you're playing vs DET. No? In another thread where Raph did the math, it seemed like the home team basically has a 5% advantage. More than anything, it's just kind of a dull way of doing it because there's no variety, because the teams are not meant to be balanced. The goal is to keep it as simple as possible. We are going to be having a lot of tournaments and have a limited amount of time. We are also going to experts playing as well as novices, so we want to keep the team selection process as easy as possible. There's no perfect way, and if the coin flip doesn't satisfy enough people that actually play in the tournament, we can definitely look into adjusting the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) There is no disadvantage for anyone as long as players are free to pick whatever team they want to. How could one guy be at a disadvantage when there are so many competitive teams to choose from? Well, there is the very slight advantage of picking second (which is better than picking home/away) So, the coin toss winner hardly gets an advantage at best I guess, but not really. Edited January 23, 2016 by Premium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tru Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 I see. winner picks home, loser picks team, winner picks team... makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceStorm70 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 If I had been more prepared I would've live having the choice of teams. Just didn't put the time in to come up with match ups I'd be comfortable with. I hated winning the toss in Toronto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Regardless of format, if anyone from the online community makes it to Houston they should sweep the '94 tourney. Btw, my worst loss in Toronto was when KG gave me Detroit (don't remember which team he had atm)...lost like 9-1. Brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 The goal is to keep it as simple as possible. We are going to be having a lot of tournaments and have a limited amount of time. We are also going to experts playing as well as novices, so we want to keep the team selection process as easy as possible. There's no perfect way, and if the coin flip doesn't satisfy enough people that actually play in the tournament, we can definitely look into adjusting the rules. Yes, no worries . There's no real problem with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smozoma Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Regardless of format, if anyone from the online community makes it to Houston they should sweep the '94 tourney. Btw, my worst loss in Toronto was when KG gave me Detroit (don't remember which team he had atm)...lost like 9-1. Brutal. I'm pretty tempted to go to this -- anyone else? The tough bit, though, is that it's 3 days for the 94 tourney (Fri-Sun). Maybe we could set something up for during the downtime, find some bar and run a smaller tourney. King of '94 South Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachMac Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I'd go depending on my Fall Sports pre-season which I should know soon. That is pushing right up against it, but I would love to play TSB also. Northwest Territories in July and Texas in August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Yeah, I'm tempted too, and if we have some '94 guys, the downtime could be used up just playing exis! Will be a lot to ask this year...figure NWT a possibility in July, I assume KO94-2 will be in Sept in Toronto...this in Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbettkb Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Gotta make some time to go to the Rothko Chapel... www.rothkochapel.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jer_33 Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Regardless of format, if anyone from the online community makes it to Houston they should sweep the '94 tourney. Btw, my worst loss in Toronto was when KG gave me Detroit (don't remember which team he had atm)...lost like 9-1. Brutal. I believe it was Detroit-Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I believe it was Detroit-Buffalo. Yes! Good memory, I just reread it on my KO94 diary. 8-1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingraph Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 '94 Finals...I'm assuming nobody from the from the forums made this, based on the gameplay: https://www.twitch.tv/retroworldseries/v/83464644 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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